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TOPIC: New Patriot's Rules in Effect:
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 11 2007 1:58 pm
From: "Megatron"

New Patriots Rules in Effect:
In order to address the complaints and hurt feelings of the rest of the NFL,
the commissioner has adopted 10 new "Special Rules" for all New England
Patriots games. They take effect immediately, and are as follows:

Special Rules for the Patriots

1) In the course of an NFL game, if the Patriots go up by more than 31
points, they are not allowed to play offense until the opposing team draws
to within one score. (Pats will kick-off after an opposing team's touchdown
or FG). Once the team is within one score, the Pats offense may play, but
Tom Brady may not, unless: the Pats play with 8 players (including Tom), or
the Pats play with 9 players, but 1 player for the Patriots is chosen by the
opposing team from the stands. no Patriots linebacker is allowed to play
offense, unless that LB is inserted at quarterback. However, Mike Vrabel
cannot be quarterback.

2) If an opposing player states "It's like were playing 7-on-5s" (7 offense,
5 defense during practice), such as indicated by Justin Smith, DE,
Cincinnati Bengals 10/1/07, the Patriots must take a time out and serve ice
cold lemonade or hot tea (weather dependent) to the opposing team. Scones
are optional.

3) Once the 31 pt rule is in effect, Patriots may challenge any play, but
the opposing team gets veto power over the referee.

4) Once the Pats offense is allowed back onto the field (7 pts), for any
forward pass the Pats QB must point to the receiver and call out his number
BEFORE passing. If Tom Brady is quarterbacking at the time, he must do that,
plus turn the opposing team's water cooler into wine BEFORE passing.

5) Belichick must diagram any Patriots play to the opposing defense and
ensure they understand exactly how to disrupt the play. This all must be
done within the play clock. If this process is not complete prior to the
play clock expiring, the Patriots will be assessed a delay of game and
double unsportsmanlike conduct penalties.

6) Randy Moss must play with 10lb ankle weights on each ankle. An additional
pound will be added for each TD this season.

7) Wes Welker is not allowed to have "that crazy look" in his eyes. 10 yd,
"crazy eyes"penalty assessed.

8) Tom Brady must immediately stop dating super-models as he will not be
allowed to date anyone that is more attractive then the least attractive
significant other of an opposing team member (including coaches). He also
must start doing commercials for every product imaginable, especially ones
where he chants "cut that meat!"or refers to himself "as a 6'5" quarterback
with a laser-rocket arm" ( Oh wait sorry, isn't that Peyton?)

9) Bill Belichick is not allowed to be within 100 yds of any infant, for
fear that his evil super-genius powers would assimilate such a defenseless
creature into the Patriots System. We have already seen this effect on an
inordinate amount of chipmunks, squirrels, and 'possum that commit suicide
while crossing Rte 1 to reach Gillette Stadium.

10) Patriots must respect all opposing players feelings and apologize for
every first down. Touchdowns must be followed by a written apology and a
fruit basket presented with a hug.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 11 2007 2:12 pm
From: who'sthat

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:58:43 -0500, "Megatron" <Megatron@home> wrote:

>New Patriots Rules in Effect:

More silly whining

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 11 2007 2:44 pm
From: OceanView

who'sthat <whosthat> wrote in news:3p2ul3pu0hgri7k1e5v2hpudtgummjos1g@
4ax.com:

> On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:58:43 -0500, "Megatron" <Megatron@home> wrote:
>
>>New Patriots Rules in Effect:
>
> More silly whining
>

Whining? Did you read it? It's just a joke.

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TOPIC: SUICIDE BY COP
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 11 2007 2:09 pm
From: "RickyBobby"

"who'sthat" <whosthat> wrote in message
news:eg0ul3lg4c5tap32hhvmlqd2fat3fibocv@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:28:39 -0800, "RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"who'sthat" <whosthat> wrote in message
>>news:eoutl35mkmol33phvcv3dqs3s6st37c9mh@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:28:40 -0800, "RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"d3ad baby 3at3r" <deadheadkiller@spine.org> wrote in message
>>>>news:Xns9A0392181A995robcypher@62.76.176.130...
>>>>> NEW YORK (CNN) -- A young man carrying what turned out to be a
>>>>> hairbrush died Monday night in a hail of bullets fired by New York
>>>>> police.
>>>>> art.shooting.brother.ny.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Everybody knows that cops are the losers who could never win a fight in
>>>>grade school or high school so they get that badge and that gun and that
>>>>immunity and they try to get even for all the years of scorn and
>>>>humiliation
>>>>that they so richly deserved.
>>>>
>>>>There may be one good cop out of ten but the other nine are total
>>>>worthless
>>>>bags of manure with a big inferiority complex.
>>>>
>>>>I hope these gunslinging heros are proud of themselves for standing up
>>>>to
>>>>a
>>>>hairbrush wielding disturbed man.
>>>
>>> I'm guessing you tried to be a cop and didn't make it
>>
>>LOL I am too good natured to be a cop. I would never arrest anyone or
>>give anyone a citation if they asked me nicely not to. Even if I got
>>through
>>the vetting and training I would not last a month on the job. It is a
>>tough
>>job but somebody has to do it. Unfortunately, they get a bunch of lames
>>to
>>do it.
>>
>>There was this funny story about a year ago about some head cop who got a
>>phone call about some climbers caught up on a mountain. He told the
>>person
>>who called that he was watching the important college football game on TV
>>and he did not wish to be bothered. The climbers died.
>
> You make a blanket statement that any reasonable person knows to be
> untrue and you back it up with a story you can't cite?
> HJAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

I do not have to "cite" anything that is common knowledge. Everybody who
follows the news knows that those climbers were lost because the head cop
was watching a football game and would not call out the rescue folks. So
sorry for your ignorance.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 11 2007 2:40 pm
From: who'sthat

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:09:27 -0800, "RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox.net>
wrote:

>
>"who'sthat" <whosthat> wrote in message
>news:eg0ul3lg4c5tap32hhvmlqd2fat3fibocv@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:28:39 -0800, "RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"who'sthat" <whosthat> wrote in message
>>>news:eoutl35mkmol33phvcv3dqs3s6st37c9mh@4ax.com...
>>>> On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:28:40 -0800, "RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"d3ad baby 3at3r" <deadheadkiller@spine.org> wrote in message
>>>>>news:Xns9A0392181A995robcypher@62.76.176.130...
>>>>>> NEW YORK (CNN) -- A young man carrying what turned out to be a
>>>>>> hairbrush died Monday night in a hail of bullets fired by New York
>>>>>> police.
>>>>>> art.shooting.brother.ny.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Everybody knows that cops are the losers who could never win a fight in
>>>>>grade school or high school so they get that badge and that gun and that
>>>>>immunity and they try to get even for all the years of scorn and
>>>>>humiliation
>>>>>that they so richly deserved.
>>>>>
>>>>>There may be one good cop out of ten but the other nine are total
>>>>>worthless
>>>>>bags of manure with a big inferiority complex.
>>>>>
>>>>>I hope these gunslinging heros are proud of themselves for standing up
>>>>>to
>>>>>a
>>>>>hairbrush wielding disturbed man.
>>>>
>>>> I'm guessing you tried to be a cop and didn't make it
>>>
>>>LOL I am too good natured to be a cop. I would never arrest anyone or
>>>give anyone a citation if they asked me nicely not to. Even if I got
>>>through
>>>the vetting and training I would not last a month on the job. It is a
>>>tough
>>>job but somebody has to do it. Unfortunately, they get a bunch of lames
>>>to
>>>do it.
>>>
>>>There was this funny story about a year ago about some head cop who got a
>>>phone call about some climbers caught up on a mountain. He told the
>>>person
>>>who called that he was watching the important college football game on TV
>>>and he did not wish to be bothered. The climbers died.
>>
>> You make a blanket statement that any reasonable person knows to be
>> untrue and you back it up with a story you can't cite?
>> HJAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>
>I do not have to "cite" anything that is common knowledge. Everybody who
>follows the news knows that those climbers were lost because the head cop
>was watching a football game and would not call out the rescue folks. So
>sorry for your ignorance.

No, 'everybody' doesn't know it. Prove it.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 11 2007 2:42 pm
From: who'sthat

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:40:01 -0600, who'sthat <whosthat> wrote:

>On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:09:27 -0800, "RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox.net>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"who'sthat" <whosthat> wrote in message
>>news:eg0ul3lg4c5tap32hhvmlqd2fat3fibocv@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:28:39 -0800, "RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"who'sthat" <whosthat> wrote in message
>>>>news:eoutl35mkmol33phvcv3dqs3s6st37c9mh@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:28:40 -0800, "RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"d3ad baby 3at3r" <deadheadkiller@spine.org> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:Xns9A0392181A995robcypher@62.76.176.130...
>>>>>>> NEW YORK (CNN) -- A young man carrying what turned out to be a
>>>>>>> hairbrush died Monday night in a hail of bullets fired by New York
>>>>>>> police.
>>>>>>> art.shooting.brother.ny.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Everybody knows that cops are the losers who could never win a fight in
>>>>>>grade school or high school so they get that badge and that gun and that
>>>>>>immunity and they try to get even for all the years of scorn and
>>>>>>humiliation
>>>>>>that they so richly deserved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There may be one good cop out of ten but the other nine are total
>>>>>>worthless
>>>>>>bags of manure with a big inferiority complex.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I hope these gunslinging heros are proud of themselves for standing up
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>hairbrush wielding disturbed man.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm guessing you tried to be a cop and didn't make it
>>>>
>>>>LOL I am too good natured to be a cop. I would never arrest anyone or
>>>>give anyone a citation if they asked me nicely not to. Even if I got
>>>>through
>>>>the vetting and training I would not last a month on the job. It is a
>>>>tough
>>>>job but somebody has to do it. Unfortunately, they get a bunch of lames
>>>>to
>>>>do it.
>>>>
>>>>There was this funny story about a year ago about some head cop who got a
>>>>phone call about some climbers caught up on a mountain. He told the
>>>>person
>>>>who called that he was watching the important college football game on TV
>>>>and he did not wish to be bothered. The climbers died.
>>>
>>> You make a blanket statement that any reasonable person knows to be
>>> untrue and you back it up with a story you can't cite?
>>> HJAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>
>>I do not have to "cite" anything that is common knowledge. Everybody who
>>follows the news knows that those climbers were lost because the head cop
>>was watching a football game and would not call out the rescue folks. So
>>sorry for your ignorance.
>
>No, 'everybody' doesn't know it. Prove it.

Or somebody else cite it.

And then tell me how the actions of one cop represent all cops.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 11 2007 2:46 pm
From: "RickyBobby"

o not have to "cite" anything that is common knowledge. Everybody who
>>follows the news knows that those climbers were lost because the head cop
>>was watching a football game and would not call out the rescue folks. So
>>sorry for your ignorance.
>
> No, 'everybody' doesn't know it. Prove it.

It was almost a year ago and I am not sure if the internet holds stories
that long. So I cannot prove anything. But in general terms some
adventurers were trying to climb Mt Hood and some weather set in and
somebody called the head cop and asked him if he should declare a situation
and send some helicopters. The Head Cop was busy in front of his teevee
watching Boise State or somebody in some college football Bowl and did not
care to be bothered with those details. So the adventurers all died because
the cop was lazy and self-indulgent.

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TOPIC: Laurence Maroney, take note
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 11 2007 1:45 pm
From: "Heyzeus"

Laurence Maroney, take note
Date:Tuesday 11 December 2007 10:32
Author:jdonaldson@projo.com

The Patriots' underachieving, only-semi-durable, second-year running back
might want to ponder these comments by Green Bay coach Mike McCarthy
regarding the until recently unheralded Ryan Grant, who rushed for 156
yards on 29 carries Sunday against the Raiders: "I really like the way he
runs. No wasted steps. One cut. Always moving forward. That's the style
in the NFL that works best, I think." Maroney was drafted 21st overall by
New England in 2006. Grant was obtained by the Packers this year from the
Giants in exchange for a late-round draft pick, after spending the 2005
season in New York on the practice squad and last season on the Injured
Reserve list. Unlike Grant, Maroney tries to make too many cuts, does too
much dancing, too often runs East-West, instead of North-South. As the
weather worsens, and it becomes increasingly difficult to throw the
football consistently, the Patriots will need to rely more on Maroney,
who thus far in his brief career has not run as well as his former
teammate at Minnesota, the Cowboys' Marion Barber.

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 11 2007 4:21 pm
From: Hemi

On Dec 11, 4:45 pm, "Heyzeus" <Heyz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Laurence Maroney, take note
> Date:Tuesday 11 December 2007 10:32
> Author:jdonald...@projo.com
>
> The Patriots' underachieving, only-semi-durable, second-year running back
> might want to ponder these comments by Green Bay coach Mike McCarthy
> regarding the until recently unheralded Ryan Grant, who rushed for 156
> yards on 29 carries Sunday against the Raiders: "I really like the way he
> runs. No wasted steps. One cut. Always moving forward. That's the style
> in the NFL that works best, I think." Maroney was drafted 21st overall by
> New England in 2006. Grant was obtained by the Packers this year from the
> Giants in exchange for a late-round draft pick, after spending the 2005
> season in New York on the practice squad and last season on the Injured
> Reserve list. Unlike Grant, Maroney tries to make too many cuts, does too
> much dancing, too often runs East-West, instead of North-South. As the
> weather worsens, and it becomes increasingly difficult to throw the
> football consistently, the Patriots will need to rely more on Maroney,
> who thus far in his brief career has not run as well as his former
> teammate at Minnesota, the Cowboys' Marion Barber.
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com

I agree. I think Morris going down was a horrible and underestimated
loss.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 11 2007 4:30 pm
From: "MZ"

"Heyzeus" <Heyzeus@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:475f04e5$0$26034$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
> Laurence Maroney, take note
> Date:Tuesday 11 December 2007 10:32
> Author:jdonaldson@projo.com
>
> The Patriots' underachieving, only-semi-durable, second-year running back
> might want to ponder these comments by Green Bay coach Mike McCarthy
> regarding the until recently unheralded Ryan Grant, who rushed for 156
> yards on 29 carries Sunday against the Raiders: "I really like the way he
> runs. No wasted steps. One cut. Always moving forward. That's the style
> in the NFL that works best, I think." Maroney was drafted 21st overall by
> New England in 2006. Grant was obtained by the Packers this year from the
> Giants in exchange for a late-round draft pick, after spending the 2005
> season in New York on the practice squad and last season on the Injured
> Reserve list. Unlike Grant, Maroney tries to make too many cuts, does too
> much dancing, too often runs East-West, instead of North-South. As the
> weather worsens, and it becomes increasingly difficult to throw the
> football consistently, the Patriots will need to rely more on Maroney,
> who thus far in his brief career has not run as well as his former
> teammate at Minnesota, the Cowboys' Marion Barber.

How do we know that there's a hole to run through?

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TOPIC: Bet the games. Here's a sign up bonus.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 11 2007 2:42 pm
From: winningagain123@yahoo.com

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and get a 20 percent bonus.

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TOPIC: BURGER KING CONDOMS
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 11 2007 2:54 pm
From: Mrs. Dud

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:33:32 -0600, who'sthat
<whosthat@UKnowI'mmRight.com> wrote:
>hint: http://www.hivtest.org/subindex.cfm?FuseAction=faq#exposure
I've been advised by medical professionals that it takes about
six months to show up.

The six months is their figure not mine.

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TOPIC: Smith Says Pats & Steelers Will Meet Again
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 11 2007 3:01 pm
From: "Paul Dalrymple"

Rick Rockett wrote:
> "Paul Dalrymple" wrote:
> > And other notes from the wires:
> >
> > Notes:@ The Steelers are 7-0 at home and 2-4 on the road. They have
> > won in only two states: Pennsylvania and Ohio. ... Jacksonville is
> > 10-8 against Pittsburgh, winning the past two. ... If the Steelers
> > are the No. 3 seed in
> > the AFC playoffs, as they would be today, and the Patriots are the
> > top seed, the teams could meet again only in the AFC championship
> > game. (Yes, I know fans here knew that one already.)
> He's correct. The Pats and Steelers will meet again next year @ the
> Razor. That is if they hold on to 1st place in their div.

Yes, but of course he was referring to *this* postseason. ;)
But AFA next season, think the Steelers will finally do something about
the field at the Razor? The league forced the Pats to "fix" theirs!

== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 11 2007 3:25 pm
From: Eddie Wilson

On Dec 11, 2:40 pm, jbuc...@webtv.net (J Buck) wrote:
> this guy just doesn't know how to STFU, does he? You'd think his
> teammates and/or coaches would've straightened him out by now.

I expect someone's walking up behind him with a roll of duct tape
right about now.

== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 11 2007 3:30 pm
From: "Rick Rockett"

"Paul Dalrymple" <PBudDalrymple@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:A_6dnWUUrd94i8LanZ2dnUVZ_rWtnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Rick Rockett wrote:
>> "Paul Dalrymple" wrote:
>> > And other notes from the wires:
>> >
>> > Notes:@ The Steelers are 7-0 at home and 2-4 on the road. They have
>> > won in only two states: Pennsylvania and Ohio. ... Jacksonville is
>> > 10-8 against Pittsburgh, winning the past two. ... If the Steelers
>> > are the No. 3 seed in
>> > the AFC playoffs, as they would be today, and the Patriots are the
>> > top seed, the teams could meet again only in the AFC championship
>> > game. (Yes, I know fans here knew that one already.)
>> He's correct. The Pats and Steelers will meet again next year @ the
>> Razor. That is if they hold on to 1st place in their div.
>
> Yes, but of course he was referring to *this* postseason. ;)
> But AFA next season, think the Steelers will finally do something about
> the field at the Razor? The league forced the Pats to "fix" theirs!
>
Paul, Gillette is the Razor. Pittsburgh is Heinz Field

== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 11 2007 3:33 pm
From: cloud dreamer

Rick Rockett wrote:
>
> "Paul Dalrymple" <PBudDalrymple@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:A_6dnWUUrd94i8LanZ2dnUVZ_rWtnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Rick Rockett wrote:
>>> "Paul Dalrymple" wrote:
>>> > And other notes from the wires:
>>> >
>>> > Notes:@ The Steelers are 7-0 at home and 2-4 on the road. They have
>>> > won in only two states: Pennsylvania and Ohio. ... Jacksonville is
>>> > 10-8 against Pittsburgh, winning the past two. ... If the Steelers
>>> > are the No. 3 seed in
>>> > the AFC playoffs, as they would be today, and the Patriots are the
>>> > top seed, the teams could meet again only in the AFC championship
>>> > game. (Yes, I know fans here knew that one already.)
>>> He's correct. The Pats and Steelers will meet again next year @ the
>>> Razor. That is if they hold on to 1st place in their div.
>>
>> Yes, but of course he was referring to *this* postseason. ;)
>> But AFA next season, think the Steelers will finally do something about
>> the field at the Razor? The league forced the Pats to "fix" theirs!
>>
> Paul, Gillette is the Razor. Pittsburgh is Heinz Field

That would make it the Ketchup....wouldn't it?

;)

We must change the way we live,
or the climate will do it for us.

== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 11 2007 4:03 pm
From: "Rick Rockett"

"cloud dreamer" <Stop@Global.Warming> wrote in message
news:13lu7ilne91e1c2@news.supernews.com...
> Rick Rockett wrote:

>
> That would make it the Ketchup....wouldn't it?
>
> ;)
>
I was thinking The Mustard, for all those hot dogs

== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 11 2007 4:11 pm
From: "Paul Dalrymple"

Rick Rockett wrote:
> "Paul Dalrymple" <PBudDalrymple@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:A_6dnWUUrd94i8LanZ2dnUVZ_rWtnZ2d@comcast.com...
> > Rick Rockett wrote:
> > > "Paul Dalrymple" wrote:
> > > > And other notes from the wires:
> > > >
> > > > Notes:@ The Steelers are 7-0 at home and 2-4 on the road. They
> > > > have won in only two states: Pennsylvania and Ohio. ...
> > > > Jacksonville is 10-8 against Pittsburgh, winning the past two.
> > > > ... If the Steelers are the No. 3 seed in
> > > > the AFC playoffs, as they would be today, and the Patriots are
> > > > the top seed, the teams could meet again only in the AFC
> > > > championship game. (Yes, I know fans here knew that one
> > > > already.)
> > > He's correct. The Pats and Steelers will meet again next year @
> > > the Razor. That is if they hold on to 1st place in their div.
> >
> > Yes, but of course he was referring to *this* postseason. ;)
> > But AFA next season, think the Steelers will finally do something
> > about the field at the Razor? The league forced the Pats to "fix"
> > theirs!
> Paul, Gillette is the Razor. Pittsburgh is Heinz Field

Oops- must be the lack of alcohol. Dunno how that one happened!
Guess I just wanted to make a snap remark about the conditions at Heinz
during the games I've watched! ;) (And as I said, knowing how the league
has complained about Heinz)

== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 11 2007 4:16 pm
From: cloud dreamer

Rick Rockett wrote:
>
> "cloud dreamer" <Stop@Global.Warming> wrote in message
> news:13lu7ilne91e1c2@news.supernews.com...
>> Rick Rockett wrote:
>
>>
>> That would make it the Ketchup....wouldn't it?
>>
>> ;)
>>
> I was thinking The Mustard, for all those hot dogs

I could relish that one...

We must change the way we live,
or the climate will do it for us.

== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 11 2007 4:21 pm
From: "Paul Dalrymple"

Rick Rockett wrote:

> Paul, Gillette is the Razor. Pittsburgh is Heinz Field

Looking back, I think what it threw me off was your remark
about the "condition" that the Steelers had to win their division.
You're saying they won't face each other if the Steelers don't?
(I know the Pats will face a top-seed schedule.)

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TOPIC: "virtual" theft leads to real life arrest
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 11 2007 3:17 pm
From: Joxer

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:30:45 +0000 (UTC), d3ad baby 3at3r
<deadheadkiller@spine.org> wrote:
>The 17-year-old is accused of stealing 4,000 euros (£2,840) worth of
>virtual furniture, bought with real money.
Why would someone spend real money to buy virtual furniture?

To me the biggest sucker is the one who buys virtual furniture.
After all the furniture IS VIRTUAL, i.e. not real, pretend,
doesn't exist. A kin to spending real money to buy a bridge
in the desert.

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TOPIC: Current Forecast for Jets Game
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Date: Tues, Dec 11 2007 3:46 pm
From: jbuck41@webtv.net (J Buck)

This is New England in December. One shouldn't plan one's outdoor
activities 5 days in advance based on a weather report.

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TOPIC: gov'ment says online gambling is illegal
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 11 2007 4:19 pm
From: Paris Geller

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:01:28 +0000 (UTC), d3ad baby 3at3r
<deadheadkiller@spine.org> wrote:

>Even as Governor Deval Patrick seeks to license three resort casinos in
>Massachusetts, he hopes to clamp down on the explosion in Internet
>gambling by making it illegal for state residents to place a bet on
>line. He has proposed jail terms of up to two years and $25,000 fines
>for violators.
My understanding is the movement against on line gambling originates
with the credit card companies and the banks.

The complaints genarally are not against on line gambling itself
but the credit fraud that often accompanies it.

If the on line gambling industry is to survive they have
to figure out a way to do it without the accompanying credit
card fraud.

IMHO you can gamble on line. But no you can't use my
credit card to do it.

I have yet to find anyone with a solution to this problem.

(My understanding too is if you use a credit card and
it's for gambling that the credit card issuer can't
collect the debt.)

>
>The provision, buried deep in Patrick's bill to allow three casinos to
>the state, puts the governor at odds with a fellow Democrat: US
>Representative Barney Frank, the sponsor of federal legislation to
>license and regulate online gambling nationally. Yesterday Frank
>strongly criticized the governor's plan to punish online gamers while
>inviting casino operators to set up shop.
>
>"Why is gambling in a casino OK and gambling on the Internet is not?"
>Frank said. "He's making a big mistake. He's giving opponents an
>argument against him."
>
>A 46-year-old federal law prohibits betting using telephone lines, which
>the US Department of Justice has interpreted as prohibiting all online
>gambling. The government's policy has been to prosecute the operators of
>Internet gambling sites, but not the gamblers.
>
>Patrick's provision takes aim at both and would levy the same penalties
>on either end of the transaction. Courts have been divided over the
>legality of placing bets on line, and state laws vary on the issue.
>Massachusetts currently has no prohibition, and if its ban is adopted.
>it would join such states as Utah, Nevada, and Washington.
>
>Patrick officials declined yesterday to explain the governor's rationale
>for including the provision in the proposed legislation. They also would
>not respond to Frank's comments.
>
>"Several of the provisions of the governor's proposed resort casinos
>bill seek to clarify the laws relating to gaming in Massachusetts,
>including online gaming," said Kofi Jones, spokeswoman for the
>governor's chief gambling adviser, Daniel O'Connell, secretary of
>economic development. Others suggested the provision was included to
>make casino licenses more lucrative by preventing competition from
>online operators.
>
>"If you were cynical about it, you'd think that they're trying to set up
>a monopoly for the casinos," said David G. Schwartz, director of the
>Center for Gaming Research at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas.
>
>Patrick's casino legislation, which has been introduced at the State
>House but is not expected to get a hearing until next year, would
>license three casinos in three regions of the state. Casino developers
>would bid on the licenses, and Patrick expects they would attract 10-
>year licensing fees of $200 million to $300 million for each casino.
>
>Since the first Internet casino went live in 1995, online gambling has
>exploded nationwide. Users have flooded thousands of gambling sites,
>punching in credit card numbers for the rights to play cyberbingo and
>real-time poker from their homes. It still lags behind brick-and-mortar
>casinos, but online gambling has become a formidable industry, totaling
>$12 billion in 2005, according to Christiansen Capital Advisors, a
>Maine-based research firm.
>
>
>Based on its reading of the 1961 Wire Act, which bans using telephone
>line to place bets, the US Department of Justice contends that operating
>online gambling sites is illegal, although most of the sites are
>operated offshore and do not fall under US laws. Last year, Congress
>approved a gambling bill that bars credit card companies from making
>payments to online gambling websites, making it more difficult to place
>bets. Frank's bill, which was filed earlier this year, would effectively
>overturn that law and license and regulate online gambling in the United
>States.
>"I believe in personal liberty," Frank said. "Adults should be able to
>do what they want. I wish my fellow liberals would not be so
>inconsistent on this issue."
>
>Patrick's provision, which is described in three paragraphs of the bill,
>applies to anyone in Massachusetts who places or receives a wager of any
>type using a telephone, cellphone, Internet, or local wireless networks.
>It also applies to anyone who knowingly installs equipment for
>transmitting wagers. The provision also specifically exempts the
>proposed casinos from the law.
>
>It does not say specifically how the state would enforce the ban, but
>the bill would establish an independent Gaming Control Authority and a
>division of Gaming Investigation and Enforcement within the attorney
>general's office, which would have broad powers to enforce regulations
>and investigate crimes.
>
>But in trying to ban online gambling while expanding casinos, the
>governor's administration appears to be alienating a constituency that
>might otherwise support his gambling expansion.
>
>The Poker Players Alliance, a group that says it represents the
>interests of online gamblers, began a letter-writing campaign last week
>and has generated 1,700 letters to the governor and various state
>legislators. The Washington-based organization has 16,000 members in
>Massachusetts, which is a fraction of what the alliance estimates are
>the 250,000 online poker players in the state.
>
>"I feel betrayed by the very existence of this legislation," the letter
>read. "It's especially aggravating that this language is contained in a
>larger bill to expand casino gambling in the Commonwealth. This contrast
>is utter hypocrisy."
>
>The organization, which recently campaigned against Governor Ernie
>Fletcher of Kentucky for nixing a proposed casino referendum, supports
>the governor's proposal for three Massachusetts casinos, but plans to
>oppose the overall bill.
>
>"It makes absolutely no sense to me," said Randy Castonguay, director of
>the Massachusetts chapter of the Poker Players Alliance. "It's actually
>kind of laughable if you think about it."
>
>Laura Everett, spokeswoman for Casino Free Massachusetts, a coalition of
>anticasino advocates, said that while some in the group may oppose
>online gambling, the organization is focused on fighting brick-and-
>mortar casinos. "We think the whole bill is a problem," she said. "One
>provision is not going to make a difference."

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 11 2007 4:23 pm
From: trijcomm

Online gambling can't be regulated and all the funds go overseas.
Resort gambling is under strict regulations and is taxed, sending
money to help schools and state government coffers.

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TOPIC: Boston Writer Calls Steelers "Pathetic"
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Date: Tues, Dec 11 2007 4:19 pm
From: ringo@home.com

"Seahawk Power" <seahawks@arrow93fm.com> wrote in
news:13ltsqflkfili17@corp.supernews.com:

> http://www.blitzburghreport.com/boston-writer-calls-steelers-pathetic/
>
> It's a joke. The pathetic Steelers, who never could come to grips
> with the
> fact that the Pats were better, are now using "Cheatgate" as an excuse
> for blowing the AFC Championship game at home in 2002. It'll never end
> now.
>
> Getting caught in this stupid stunt has emboldened all those who
> were
> legitimately flattened by the Patriots in the last seven years. And
> it's never going to go away.
>
> "When you look back in the past and we played them in the
> championship
> games, you wonder," Ward said Wednesday. "It seemed like they were a
> step ahead of us at all times."
>
Is Ward talking about 2002 or last Sunday? :{

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