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TOPIC: Benitez Needs More Money
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/browse_thread/thread/f10d823a821346f6?hl=en
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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 27 2007 5:37 pm
From: barca4ever89@hotmail.com

Jellore wrote:
> On Dec 28, 10:29 am, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Jellore wrote:
> > > On Dec 27, 4:49�pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > I guarantee you that if Benetiz gets more money he will be buying more
> > > > foreigners to fuel his team.
> >
> > > I thought you had decided to stop trolling ?
> >
> > I contributed knowledge to this topic, while you've just stalked me
> > into another thread. What was that about trolling Jallore?
> >
> > :))
>
> Wrong Mr Troll, it is you who consistently introduce anti-English bile
> into whatever thread takes your fancy for the sake of provoking
> posters.

I protest to you calling me a troll when all I did was contribute to
the current thread, unlike yourself who only seems content on stalking
me and hanging on every last words that I say. In fact it is only your
behavior which is provocative, and therefore you are the pot calling
the kettle black, and another in the long list of hypocrites who
feature in this newsgroup.

You are clearly disturbed for some strange reason.

And, you impulsive muppet, bile is for emulsifying fats...can't I be
pancreatic enzymes or something that digests protein instead?

== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 27 2007 5:38 pm
From: barca4ever89@hotmail.com

Jellore wrote:
> On Dec 28, 10:31�am, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > This is a bit illusory because....
> >
> > Benny wrote:
> > > Manchester United
> > > DF. Ferdinand � � � � � � � � � � �47.00
> >
> > This one is a huge rip off
> >
> > > MF. Hargreaves � � � � � � � � � � 24.85
> >
> > Ditto
> >
> > > FW. Rooney � � � � � � � � 30.00
> >
> > and once again a huge rip off.
> >
> > > MF. Carrick � � � � � � � � � � � �27.00
> >
> > one more rip off
> >
> > Confirming once again that English players are over priced for their
> > real value.
>
> Why are you so concerned as long as Barca don't buy one of your
> "overpriced" English players.

Don't worry, Barca won't do something silly like that. Instead we'll
sell Ronaldinho when his price tag is high and buy some real talent
for half the price of the players above.

> I wonder if Sir AF would describe the above three as rip-offs ?

Anyone would.

== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 27 2007 5:48 pm
From: Jellore

On Dec 28, 12:37 pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Jellore wrote:
> > On Dec 28, 10:29 am, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > Jellore wrote:
> > > > On Dec 27, 4:49�pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > I guarantee you that if Benetiz gets more money he will be buying more
> > > > > foreigners to fuel his team.
>
> > > > I thought you had decided to stop trolling ?
>
> > > I contributed knowledge to this topic, while you've just stalked me
> > > into another thread. What was that about trolling Jallore?
>
> > > :))
>
> > Wrong Mr Troll, it is you who consistently introduce anti-English bile
> > into whatever thread takes your fancy for the sake of provoking
> > posters.
>
> I protest to you calling me a troll when all I did was contribute to
> the current thread, unlike yourself who only seems content on stalking
> me and hanging on every last words that I say. In fact it is only your
> behavior which is provocative, and therefore you are the pot calling
> the kettle black, and another in the long list of hypocrites who
> feature in this newsgroup.
>
> You are clearly disturbed for some strange reason.
>
> And, you impulsive muppet, bile is for emulsifying fats...can't I be
> pancreatic enzymes or something that digests protein instead?

Mate you can protest as much as you want, in fact I think you do
protest too much ! If I am disturbed it is because of trolls like you
who spew forth garbage whenever possible regarding the English and the
EPL.

You can be whatever you want to be laddie as long as you do it in a
balanced and fair manner. However I do think from what I have seen
that this is beyond you.

Now if you are not a troll you will do everyone a favour and refuse to
reply to me. The ball is in your court, how about you smash it over
fence ?

== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 27 2007 5:49 pm
From: Jellore

On Dec 28, 12:38 pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Jellore wrote:
> > On Dec 28, 10:31�am, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > This is a bit illusory because....
>
> > > Benny wrote:
> > > > Manchester United
> > > > DF. Ferdinand � � � � � � � � � � �47.00
>
> > > This one is a huge rip off
>
> > > > MF. Hargreaves � � � � � � � � � � 24.85
>
> > > Ditto
>
> > > > FW. Rooney � � � � � � � � 30.00
>
> > > and once again a huge rip off.
>
> > > > MF. Carrick � � � � � � � � � � � �27.00
>
> > > one more rip off
>
> > > Confirming once again that English players are over priced for their
> > > real value.
>
> > Why are you so concerned as long as Barca don't buy one of your
> > "overpriced" English players.
>
> Don't worry, Barca won't do something silly like that. Instead we'll
> sell Ronaldinho when his price tag is high and buy some real talent
> for half the price of the players above.
>
> > I wonder if Sir AF would describe the above three as rip-offs ?
>
> Anyone would.

Isn't it stange how all the rip-offs happen to be English ?

== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 27 2007 5:51 pm
From: barca4ever89@hotmail.com

Jellore wrote:
> On Dec 28, 12:38 pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Jellore wrote:
> > > On Dec 28, 10:31�am, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > This is a bit illusory because....
> >
> > > > Benny wrote:
> > > > > Manchester United
> > > > > DF. Ferdinand � � � � � � � � � � �47.00
> >
> > > > This one is a huge rip off
> >
> > > > > MF. Hargreaves � � � � � � � � � � 24.85
> >
> > > > Ditto
> >
> > > > > FW. Rooney � � � � � � � � 30.00
> >
> > > > and once again a huge rip off.
> >
> > > > > MF. Carrick � � � � � � � � � � � �27.00
> >
> > > > one more rip off
> >
> > > > Confirming once again that English players are over priced for their
> > > > real value.
> >
> > > Why are you so concerned as long as Barca don't buy one of your
> > > "overpriced" English players.
> >
> > Don't worry, Barca won't do something silly like that. Instead we'll
> > sell Ronaldinho when his price tag is high and buy some real talent
> > for half the price of the players above.
> >
> > > I wonder if Sir AF would describe the above three as rip-offs ?
> >
> > Anyone would.
>
> Isn't it stange how all the rip-offs happen to be English ?

No, it's because they just are not worth that money. You'll have a
very hard time convincing even those in this group that Ferdinand is
worth even 20mill these days, muppet boy. It owes to the fact that the
English over hype their players and put them way beyond their real
market value. That is all. It's the same song and dance. Hype hype
hype....I think Snoop Dog had something to say about that. Kids your
age should know what I am referring to, ya?

== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 27 2007 5:53 pm
From: barca4ever89@hotmail.com

Jellore wrote:
> On Dec 28, 12:37 pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Jellore wrote:
> > > On Dec 28, 10:29 am, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > Jellore wrote:
> > > > > On Dec 27, 4:49�pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > I guarantee you that if Benetiz gets more money he will be buying more
> > > > > > foreigners to fuel his team.
> >
> > > > > I thought you had decided to stop trolling ?
> >
> > > > I contributed knowledge to this topic, while you've just stalked me
> > > > into another thread. What was that about trolling Jallore?
> >
> > > > :))
> >
> > > Wrong Mr Troll, it is you who consistently introduce anti-English bile
> > > into whatever thread takes your fancy for the sake of provoking
> > > posters.
> >
> > I protest to you calling me a troll when all I did was contribute to
> > the current thread, unlike yourself who only seems content on stalking
> > me and hanging on every last words that I say. In fact it is only your
> > behavior which is provocative, and therefore you are the pot calling
> > the kettle black, and another in the long list of hypocrites who
> > feature in this newsgroup.
> >
> > You are clearly disturbed for some strange reason.
> >
> > And, you impulsive muppet, bile is for emulsifying fats...can't I be
> > pancreatic enzymes or something that digests protein instead?
>
> Mate you can protest as much as you want, in fact I think you do
> protest too much ! If I am disturbed it is because of trolls like you
> who spew forth garbage whenever possible regarding the English and the
> EPL.
>
> You can be whatever you want to be laddie as long as you do it in a
> balanced and fair manner. However I do think from what I have seen
> that this is beyond you.
>
> Now if you are not a troll you will do everyone a favour and refuse to
> reply to me. The ball is in your court, how about you smash it over
> fence ?

You are not as clever as you think. Trying to bind me with a
ridiculous consequence that no one other than yourself is going to put
any weight on is not going to silence me you muppet. Whether you like
it or not I will continue to hang around and smash myths such as those
that have a death grip on your mind. Eventually you will thank me for
liberating you.

== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 27 2007 5:59 pm
From: Jellore

On Dec 28, 12:51 pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Jellore wrote:
> > On Dec 28, 12:38 pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > Jellore wrote:
> > > > On Dec 28, 10:31�am, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > This is a bit illusory because....
>
> > > > > Benny wrote:
> > > > > > Manchester United
> > > > > > DF. Ferdinand � � � � � � � � � � �47.00
>
> > > > > This one is a huge rip off
>
> > > > > > MF. Hargreaves � � � � � � � � � � 24.85
>
> > > > > Ditto
>
> > > > > > FW. Rooney � � � � � � � � 30.00
>
> > > > > and once again a huge rip off.
>
> > > > > > MF. Carrick � � � � � � � � � � � �27.00
>
> > > > > one more rip off
>
> > > > > Confirming once again that English players are over priced for their
> > > > > real value.
>
> > > > Why are you so concerned as long as Barca don't buy one of your
> > > > "overpriced" English players.
>
> > > Don't worry, Barca won't do something silly like that. Instead we'll
> > > sell Ronaldinho when his price tag is high and buy some real talent
> > > for half the price of the players above.
>
> > > > I wonder if Sir AF would describe the above three as rip-offs ?
>
> > > Anyone would.
>
> > Isn't it stange how all the rip-offs happen to be English ?
>
> No, it's because they just are not worth that money. You'll have a
> very hard time convincing even those in this group that Ferdinand is
> worth even 20mill these days, muppet boy. It owes to the fact that the
> English over hype their players and put them way beyond their real
> market value. That is all. It's the same song and dance. Hype hype
> hype....I think Snoop Dog had something to say about that. Kids your
> age should know what I am referring to, ya?

I am 52 yrs old loser. As I have said no Man Utd supporter, least of
all Sir AF have ever quibbled at the price of their players, least of
all the ones you have mentioned. Rooney is a hero to the Man Utd fans
and they adore Rio. Why should it bother you Barca fan ? The fact you
would even mention it indicates that you are a troll.

== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 27 2007 6:02 pm
From: barca4ever89@hotmail.com

Jellore wrote:
> On Dec 28, 12:51 pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Jellore wrote:
> > > On Dec 28, 12:38 pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > Jellore wrote:
> > > > > On Dec 28, 10:31�am, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > This is a bit illusory because....
> >
> > > > > > Benny wrote:
> > > > > > > Manchester United
> > > > > > > DF. Ferdinand � � � � � � � � � � �47.00
> >
> > > > > > This one is a huge rip off
> >
> > > > > > > MF. Hargreaves � � � � � � � � � � 24.85
> >
> > > > > > Ditto
> >
> > > > > > > FW. Rooney � � � � � � � � 30.00
> >
> > > > > > and once again a huge rip off.
> >
> > > > > > > MF. Carrick � � � � � � � � � � � �27.00
> >
> > > > > > one more rip off
> >
> > > > > > Confirming once again that English players are over priced for their
> > > > > > real value.
> >
> > > > > Why are you so concerned as long as Barca don't buy one of your
> > > > > "overpriced" English players.
> >
> > > > Don't worry, Barca won't do something silly like that. Instead we'll
> > > > sell Ronaldinho when his price tag is high and buy some real talent
> > > > for half the price of the players above.
> >
> > > > > I wonder if Sir AF would describe the above three as rip-offs ?
> >
> > > > Anyone would.
> >
> > > Isn't it stange how all the rip-offs happen to be English ?
> >
> > No, it's because they just are not worth that money. You'll have a
> > very hard time convincing even those in this group that Ferdinand is
> > worth even 20mill these days, muppet boy. It owes to the fact that the
> > English over hype their players and put them way beyond their real
> > market value. That is all. It's the same song and dance. Hype hype
> > hype....I think Snoop Dog had something to say about that. Kids your
> > age should know what I am referring to, ya?
>
> I am 52 yrs old loser.

Look, there's no reason to be so harsh on yourself just because you're
taking a beating from me Jallore.

> As I have said no Man Utd supporter, least of
> all Sir AF have ever quibbled at the price of their players, least of
> all the ones you have mentioned. Rooney is a hero to the Man Utd fans
> and they adore Rio. Why should it bother you Barca fan ? The fact you
> would even mention it indicates that you are a troll.

ob·sess (əb-sěs', ŏb-) Pronunciation Key
v. ob·sessed, ob·sess·ing, ob·sess·es

v. tr.
To preoccupy the mind of excessively.

v. intr.
To have the mind excessively preoccupied with a single emotion or
topic: "I wonder what Barca is doing on RSS 24 hours a day, 7 days a
week..."

== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 27 2007 9:23 pm
From: Jellore

On Dec 28, 1:02 pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Jellore wrote:
> > On Dec 28, 12:51 pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > Jellore wrote:
> > > > On Dec 28, 12:38 pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > Jellore wrote:
> > > > > > On Dec 28, 10:31�am, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > This is a bit illusory because....
>
> > > > > > > Benny wrote:
> > > > > > > > Manchester United
> > > > > > > > DF. Ferdinand � � � � � � � � � � �47.00
>
> > > > > > > This one is a huge rip off
>
> > > > > > > > MF. Hargreaves � � � � � � � � � � 24.85
>
> > > > > > > Ditto
>
> > > > > > > > FW. Rooney � � � � � � � � 30.00
>
> > > > > > > and once again a huge rip off.
>
> > > > > > > > MF. Carrick � � � � � � � � � � � �27.00
>
> > > > > > > one more rip off
>
> > > > > > > Confirming once again that English players are over priced for their
> > > > > > > real value.
>
> > > > > > Why are you so concerned as long as Barca don't buy one of your
> > > > > > "overpriced" English players.
>
> > > > > Don't worry, Barca won't do something silly like that. Instead we'll
> > > > > sell Ronaldinho when his price tag is high and buy some real talent
> > > > > for half the price of the players above.
>
> > > > > > I wonder if Sir AF would describe the above three as rip-offs ?
>
> > > > > Anyone would.
>
> > > > Isn't it stange how all the rip-offs happen to be English ?
>
> > > No, it's because they just are not worth that money. You'll have a
> > > very hard time convincing even those in this group that Ferdinand is
> > > worth even 20mill these days, muppet boy. It owes to the fact that the
> > > English over hype their players and put them way beyond their real
> > > market value. That is all. It's the same song and dance. Hype hype
> > > hype....I think Snoop Dog had something to say about that. Kids your
> > > age should know what I am referring to, ya?
>
> > I am 52 yrs old loser.
>
> Look, there's no reason to be so harsh on yourself just because you're
> taking a beating from me Jallore.
>
> > As I have said no Man Utd supporter, least of
> > all Sir AF have ever quibbled at the price of their players, least of
> > all the ones you have mentioned. Rooney is a hero to the Man Utd fans
> > and they adore Rio. Why should it bother you Barca fan ? The fact you
> > would even mention it indicates that you are a troll.
>
> ob·sess (əb-sěs', ŏb-) Pronunciation Key
> v. ob·sessed, ob·sess·ing, ob·sess·es
>
> v. tr.
> To preoccupy the mind of excessively.
>
> v. intr.
> To have the mind excessively preoccupied with a single emotion or
> topic: "I wonder what Barca is doing on RSS 24 hours a day, 7 days a
> week..."

It is clear that you have a very high opinion of yourself, which is
just as well because everyone else thinks you are..........well let us
just say otherwise.

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TOPIC: Hello My Name,Is STEPHEN I,M Really Nice Generally Guy And Asking For
Help
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/browse_thread/thread/5d3851be9cff32a1?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 27 2007 5:42 pm
From: nofcukspam@nospam.co.uk (Bernie-the-Bolt)

On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:40:13 -0000, "Janice King"
<janice.king_NO_SPAM_@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>
>"Bernie-the-Bolt" <nofcukspam@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:47742849.170398906@news.btinternet.com...
>> On 27 Dec 2007 21:04:02 GMT, Baldoni <baldoni@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I just stumbled across this. Has it been posted before because it
>>>seems to ring a bell ? It has to be him lol
>>>
>>>http://newyork.gumtree.com/newyork/02/16523802.html
>>>
>>>I WAS JUST MADE REDUNDANT,AFTER 15YRS IN MOTOR TRADE,AT FIRST,I DID
>>>WHAT MOST OF US WOULD DO,APPLIED FOR OTHER JOBS BUT NO LUCK.I LIVE IN
>>>ENGLAND,WITH TWO BOYS AND MY DAUGHTER LIVE WITH MY EX,AND LOVE MY KIDS
>>>VERY MUCH,BUT MY KIDS PASSION FOR CLOTHES,SHOES,PHONES,AND MONEY,AT
>>>FIRST I DID WHAT MOST FATHERS WOULD DO,GIVE THEM WHAT MY KIDS
>>>WANTED,I,M AM BEING TOTALLY UPFRONT AND HONEST ABOUT MY SITUATION,I DO
>>>HAVE FAMILY AND FRIENDS WHO COULD HELP ME FOR XMAS,BUT IT IS JUST TO IN
>>>EMBARRASSED TO ASK THEM AND TELL THEM ABOUT MY HARD LUCK STORIE,SO I
>>>THINK THIS IS A REALISTIC WAY OF SOLVING MY PROMLEMS.I WOULD BE HAPPY
>>>TOWORK OR DO ANYTHING.I DONT EXPECT TO REWARDED FOR DOING NOTHING.THANK
>>>FOR READING MY LETTER email stephen.price46@yahoo.co.uk or 07855819628M
>>>Really Nice Generally Guy And Asking For H
>>>
>>>--
>>>Count Baldoni
>>>
>>
>> Congratulations, you've made scrotex and zal piss themselves and have
>> reduced yourself to their level with just a few taps of your keyboard.
>>
>> Other than making yourself look a tw@t why would would you post
>> something like this in a footie NG?
>>
>> Bernie The Bolt
>> --
>> 'Tommy Smith would frequently turn up for training wearing women's
>> clothes. We used to pretend we hadn't noticed.' - Bob Paisley
>
>Why I'm replying to this I don't know but I see business has commenced as
>per usual.......!
>

What sort of business were you looking for Janice?
:)

Bernie The Bolt
--
'Tommy Smith would frequently turn up for training wearing women's
clothes. We used to pretend we hadn't noticed.' - Bob Paisley

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TOPIC: Barca gets owned, again
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/browse_thread/thread/64e47b59d482d92a?hl=en
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 27 2007 5:44 pm
From: barca4ever89@hotmail.com

Jellore wrote:
> On Dec 28, 10:20 am, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Jellore wrote:
> > > On Dec 27, 6:14 pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > kenhig...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Dec 27, 5:10 pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > kenhig...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Dec 27, 4:33�pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > kenhig...@hotmail.com wrote (Dec 23, 07):
> >
> > > > > > > > Another lie Higgs?
> >
> > > > > > > You dumbass, you've snipped all the text.
> >
> > > > > > > LOL!
> >
> > > > > > > > > And I wanted to point out that countries like Spain have always had a
> > > > > > > > > high % of foreign imports (for a very poor return in terms of national
> > > > > > > > > success) and countries like Italy have also had periods when the
> > > > > > > > > amount of foreigners was either high or low and that the success of
> > > > > > > > > the national team didn't neccessarily correlate with this. For
> > > > > > > > > example, between 66-80, Italy won no WCs (despite the blatant attempt
> > > > > > > > > of Barca to include the 82 WC win in this period),
> >
> > > > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/a0aa6c2c11c4b595?...
> >
> > > > > > > > Barca (Dec 22, 07):
> > > > > > > > "Italy won a World Cup on the tail end of a ban on foreigners (1982),
> > > > > > > > and another one when their league was 30%+ foreign. (2006)"http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/1f34a97d6d7bfc1b?...
> >
> > > > > > > > :)))
> >
> > > > > > > On the 19th Dec, Barca wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > Well it was equally impressive during the foreigner ban with
> > > > > > > > EC68 - Champions
> > > > > > > > WC70 - Runner up
> > > > > > > > EC72 - Quarterfinal
> > > > > > > > WC74 - First Round
> > > > > > > > EC76 - First Round
> > > > > > > > WC78 - 4th Place
> > > > > > > > EC80 - 4th Place
> > > > > > > > WC82- Champions
> > > > > > > Barca got caught lying again.
> > > > > > about what?
> > > > > On the 19th Dec, you wrote that Italy (impressively) won the 82 WC
> > > > > 'during the foreigner ban'
> >
> > > > I wrote that Italy performed equally impressive during the foreigner
> > > > ban. Are you denying that a European champions ship, a runner up, a
> > > > quarterfinal appearance and 4th place in the world cup, and a 4th
> > > > place in another European championship is not impressive. Are you
> > > > sane? By anyone's standards that is impressive. You're not going to
> > > > convince anyone that it is not impressive Higgs.
> >
> > > > Barca (Dec 22, 07):
> > > > "Italy won a World Cup on the tail end of a ban on foreigners (1982),
> > > > and another one when their league was 30%+ foreign. (2006)"
> >
> > > > > When I pointed out to you aon the 20th Dec that the foreigner ban ended
> > > > > in 1980
> >
> > > > You denied that there was a foreigner ban, muppet boy
> >
> > > > Higgs (dumbass) goes from (Dec 18, 07):
> > > > "The reason you didn't know that is because it simply isn't true.Don't
> > > > believe a word that lying little turd says."http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/9951c2a4d16a9ac0?...
> >
> > > > > and that you were either mistaken or lying by including 82 in
> > > > > a 66-80 period, you then posted (on 22nd Dec, which, remember, comes
> > > > > AFTER the 19th & 20th Dec), and said that Italy won the 82 WC on the
> > > > > tail end of the foreigner ban and then pretended that this was the
> > > > > quote I was referring to and was making you out to be a liar when you
> > > > > weren't really.
> >
> > > > Higgs, do I need to point out to you that 1982 is after the foreigner
> > > > ban, not during it? Are you ok?
> >
> > > > But I get it. This is like the time you said Italy played Catennacio
> > > > in 1990 and 2000 because you read it on Wiki right? ;)
> >
> > > > You're just jealous that Spain is leading the club scene in Europe and
> > > > Italy the international.
> >
> > > No not jealous,
> >
> > Oh certainly Jealous. Italy are World Cup Champions...and that pisses
> > you off. Milan won the Champions League with 7 Italians in the
> > starting lineup, and the World Club Cup. These are three feats that
> > your precious England cannot match. Even if an English side were to
> > win the CL this year it would be on the backbone of a majority foreign
> > lineup. This is a fact that you and Higgs cannot hack....but an EPL
> > side will not win because either Real or Barca will win it this year.
>
> I thought as much, even if an English team does win the CL this
> season, and let us face it there is a very good chance that one of
> them will, losers like you will still to bellyache and complain and
> whinge and act like complete nutcases.

bellyache, whinge, complete nutcases? What on God's green Earth are
you talking about. You think that simply because I pointed out that
the EPL has more foreigners than Englishmen, and the top four clubs
are almost all foreign with 78% foreign content and thus fuelled
primarily by foreign talent that I have a bellyache? Nay I say, rather
it is you who seems to have the belly ache, impulsively following me
into any thread I contribute to with insane ramblings, provocative
insults, and general trollish behavior, contributing nothing of
significance to the general database of football knowledge.

> I couldn't care less if an EPL wins with either 11 Englishman or 11
> foreigners. That has never been my point at all. I have spoken about
> the EPL as a competition and the fact that it's clubs in recent
> seasons have been performing very well.

The EPL teams have been doing well ever since they've packed their
teams with foreign talent. Indeed. And the EPL is currently the
richest league in Europe and has a large monopoly on tv contracts so
gets the widest exposure to the unfortunate youth these days who have
little choice but to watch it and get drawn into the hype about it.
The fact is that a Serie A team currently sits a top of world club
football, the Spanish league leads in UEFA's criteria for strongest
league, and Italy is the best team in Europe. None of these are
English in any way, and that obviously bothers you.

== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 27 2007 5:47 pm
From: barca4ever89@hotmail.com

> > > > > > > > Another lie Higgs?

> > > > > > > You dumbass, you've snipped all the text.

> > > > > > > LOL!

> > > > > > > > > And I wanted to point out that countries like Spain have always had a
> > > > > > > > > high % of foreign imports (for a very poor return in terms of national
> > > > > > > > > success) and countries like Italy have also had periods when the
> > > > > > > > > amount of foreigners was either high or low and that the success of
> > > > > > > > > the national team didn't neccessarily correlate with this. For
> > > > > > > > > example, between 66-80, Italy won no WCs (despite the blatant attempt
> > > > > > > > > of Barca to include the 82 WC win in this period),

> > > > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/a0aa6c2c11c4b595?...

> > > > > > > > Barca (Dec 22, 07):
> > > > > > > > "Italy won a World Cup on the tail end of a ban on foreigners (1982),
> > > > > > > > and another one when their league was 30%+ foreign. (2006)"http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/1f34a97d6d7bfc1b?...

> > > > > > > > :)))

> > > > > > > On the 19th Dec, Barca wrote:

> > > > > > > > Well it was equally impressive during the foreigner ban with
> > > > > > > > EC68 - Champions
> > > > > > > > WC70 - Runner up
> > > > > > > > EC72 - Quarterfinal
> > > > > > > > WC74 - First Round
> > > > > > > > EC76 - First Round
> > > > > > > > WC78 - 4th Place
> > > > > > > > EC80 - 4th Place
> > > > > > > > WC82- Champions
> > > > > > > Barca got caught lying again.
> > > > > > about what?
> > > > > On the 19th Dec, you wrote that Italy (impressively) won the 82 WC
> > > > > 'during the foreigner ban'

> > > > I wrote that Italy performed equally impressive during the foreigner
> > > > ban. Are you denying that a European champions ship, a runner up, a
> > > > quarterfinal appearance and 4th place in the world cup, and a 4th
> > > > place in another European championship is not impressive. Are you
> > > > sane? By anyone's standards that is impressive. You're not going to
> > > > convince anyone that it is not impressive Higgs.

> > > > Barca (Dec 22, 07):
> > > > "Italy won a World Cup on the tail end of a ban on foreigners (1982),
> > > > and another one when their league was 30%+ foreign. (2006)"

> > > > > When I pointed out to you aon the 20th Dec that the foreigner ban ended
> > > > > in 1980

> > > > You denied that there was a foreigner ban, muppet boy

> > > > Higgs (dumbass) goes from (Dec 18, 07):
> > > > "The reason you didn't know that is because it simply isn't true.Don't
> > > > believe a word that lying little turd says."http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/9951c2a4d16a9ac0?...

> > > > > and that you were either mistaken or lying by including 82 in
> > > > > a 66-80 period, you then posted (on 22nd Dec, which, remember, comes
> > > > > AFTER the 19th & 20th Dec), and said that Italy won the 82 WC on the
> > > > > tail end of the foreigner ban and then pretended that this was the
> > > > > quote I was referring to and was making you out to be a liar when you
> > > > > weren't really.

> > > > Higgs, do I need to point out to you that 1982 is after the foreigner
> > > > ban, not during it? Are you ok?

> > > > But I get it. This is like the time you said Italy played Catennacio
> > > > in 1990 and 2000 because you read it on Wiki right? ;)

> > > > You're just jealous that Spain is leading the club scene in Europe and
> > > > Italy the international.

> > > No not jealous,

> > Oh certainly Jealous. Italy are World Cup Champions...and that pisses
> > you off. Milan won the Champions League with 7 Italians in the
> > starting lineup, and the World Club Cup. These are three feats that
> > your precious England cannot match. Even if an English side were to
> > win the CL this year it would be on the backbone of a majority foreign
> > lineup. This is a fact that you and Higgs cannot hack....but an EPL
> > side will not win because either Real or Barca will win it this year.

> I thought as much, even if an English team does win the CL this
> season, and let us face it there is a very good chance that one of
> them will, losers like you will still to bellyache and complain and
> whinge and act like complete nutcases.

== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 27 2007 5:55 pm
From: Jellore

On Dec 28, 12:47 pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Jellore wrote:
> > On Dec 28, 10:20 am, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > Jellore wrote:
> > > > On Dec 27, 6:14 pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > kenhig...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Dec 27, 5:10 pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > kenhig...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Dec 27, 4:33�pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > kenhig...@hotmail.com wrote (Dec 23, 07):
> > > > > > > > > Another lie Higgs?
> > > > > > > > You dumbass, you've snipped all the text.
> > > > > > > > LOL!
> > > > > > > > > > And I wanted to point out that countries like Spain have always had a
> > > > > > > > > > high % of foreign imports (for a very poor return in terms of national
> > > > > > > > > > success) and countries like Italy have also had periods when the
> > > > > > > > > > amount of foreigners was either high or low and that the success of
> > > > > > > > > > the national team didn't neccessarily correlate with this. For
> > > > > > > > > > example, between 66-80, Italy won no WCs (despite the blatant attempt
> > > > > > > > > > of Barca to include the 82 WC win in this period),
> > > > > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/a0aa6c2c11c4b595?...
> > > > > > > > > Barca (Dec 22, 07):
> > > > > > > > > "Italy won a World Cup on the tail end of a ban on foreigners (1982),
> > > > > > > > > and another one when their league was 30%+ foreign. (2006)"http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/1f34a97d6d7bfc1b?...
> > > > > > > > > :)))
> > > > > > > > On the 19th Dec, Barca wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Well it was equally impressive during the foreigner ban with
> > > > > > > > > EC68 - Champions
> > > > > > > > > WC70 - Runner up
> > > > > > > > > EC72 - Quarterfinal
> > > > > > > > > WC74 - First Round
> > > > > > > > > EC76 - First Round
> > > > > > > > > WC78 - 4th Place
> > > > > > > > > EC80 - 4th Place
> > > > > > > > > WC82- Champions
> > > > > > > > Barca got caught lying again.
> > > > > > > about what?
> > > > > > On the 19th Dec, you wrote that Italy (impressively) won the 82 WC
> > > > > > 'during the foreigner ban'
> > > > > I wrote that Italy performed equally impressive during the foreigner
> > > > > ban. Are you denying that a European champions ship, a runner up, a
> > > > > quarterfinal appearance and 4th place in the world cup, and a 4th
> > > > > place in another European championship is not impressive. Are you
> > > > > sane? By anyone's standards that is impressive. You're not going to
> > > > > convince anyone that it is not impressive Higgs.
> > > > > Barca (Dec 22, 07):
> > > > > "Italy won a World Cup on the tail end of a ban on foreigners (1982),
> > > > > and another one when their league was 30%+ foreign. (2006)"
> > > > > > When I pointed out to you aon the 20th Dec that the foreigner ban ended
> > > > > > in 1980
> > > > > You denied that there was a foreigner ban, muppet boy
> > > > > Higgs (dumbass) goes from (Dec 18, 07):
> > > > > "The reason you didn't know that is because it simply isn't true.Don't
> > > > > believe a word that lying little turd says."http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/9951c2a4d16a9ac0?...
> > > > > > and that you were either mistaken or lying by including 82 in
> > > > > > a 66-80 period, you then posted (on 22nd Dec, which, remember, comes
> > > > > > AFTER the 19th & 20th Dec), and said that Italy won the 82 WC on the
> > > > > > tail end of the foreigner ban and then pretended that this was the
> > > > > > quote I was referring to and was making you out to be a liar when you
> > > > > > weren't really.
> > > > > Higgs, do I need to point out to you that 1982 is after the foreigner
> > > > > ban, not during it? Are you ok?
> > > > > But I get it. This is like the time you said Italy played Catennacio
> > > > > in 1990 and 2000 because you read it on Wiki right? ;)
> > > > > You're just jealous that Spain is leading the club scene in Europe and
> > > > > Italy the international.
> > > > No not jealous,
> > > Oh certainly Jealous. Italy are World Cup Champions...and that pisses
> > > you off. Milan won the Champions League with 7 Italians in the
> > > starting lineup, and the World Club Cup. These are three feats that
> > > your precious England cannot match. Even if an English side were to
> > > win the CL this year it would be on the backbone of a majority foreign
> > > lineup. This is a fact that you and Higgs cannot hack....but an EPL
> > > side will not win because either Real or Barca will win it this year.
> > I thought as much, even if an English team does win the CL this
> > season, and let us face it there is a very good chance that one of
> > them will, losers like you will still to bellyache and complain and
> > whinge and act like complete nutcases.
>
> bellyache, whinge, complete nutcases? What on God's green Earth are
> you talking about. You think that simply because I pointed out that
> the EPL has more foreigners than Englishmen, and the top four clubs
> are almost all foreign with 78% foreign content and thus fuelled
> primarily by foreign talent that I have a bellyache? Nay I say, rather
> it is you who seems to have the belly ache, impulsively following me
> into any thread I contribute to with insane ramblings, provocative
> insults, and general trollish behavior, contributing nothing of
> significance to the general database of football knowledge.
>
> > I couldn't care less if an EPL wins with either 11 Englishman or 11
> > foreigners. That has never been my point at all. I have spoken about
> > the EPL as a competition and the fact that it's clubs in recent
> > seasons have been performing very well.
>
> The EPL teams have been doing well ever since they've packed their
> teams with foreign talent. Indeed. And the EPL is currently the
> richest league in Europe and has a large monopoly on tv contracts so
> gets the widest exposure to the unfortunate youth these days who have
> little choice but to watch it and get drawn into the hype about it.
> The fact is that a Serie A team currently sits a top of world club
> football, the Spanish league leads in UEFA's criteria for strongest
> league, and Italy is the best team in Europe. None of these are
> English in any way, and that obviously bothers you.

What bothers me are fools like you who constantly write negative crap
regarding the EPL. Now true EPL watchers and supporters also happen to
recognise the quality and depth of both La Liga and Serie A....and
vica versa I would say. No one here, least of all me has ever denied
that Spanish clubs have the better record in Europe, or that AC Milan
are indeed deserved CL and W Club champions. It is you have denied the
credibility of EPL clubs, both in the past and present. You are on a
crusade, a mission to denigrate the EPL at every opportunity. Your
posting history confirms that. That makes you a troll.

== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 27 2007 6:08 pm
From: barca4ever89@hotmail.com

Jellore wrote:
> On Dec 28, 12:47 pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Jellore wrote:
> > > On Dec 28, 10:20 am, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > Jellore wrote:
> > > > > On Dec 27, 6:14 pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > kenhig...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Dec 27, 5:10 pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > kenhig...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Dec 27, 4:33�pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > kenhig...@hotmail.com wrote (Dec 23, 07):
> > > > > > > > > > Another lie Higgs?
> > > > > > > > > You dumbass, you've snipped all the text.
> > > > > > > > > LOL!
> > > > > > > > > > > And I wanted to point out that countries like Spain have always had a
> > > > > > > > > > > high % of foreign imports (for a very poor return in terms of national
> > > > > > > > > > > success) and countries like Italy have also had periods when the
> > > > > > > > > > > amount of foreigners was either high or low and that the success of
> > > > > > > > > > > the national team didn't neccessarily correlate with this. For
> > > > > > > > > > > example, between 66-80, Italy won no WCs (despite the blatant attempt
> > > > > > > > > > > of Barca to include the 82 WC win in this period),
> > > > > > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/a0aa6c2c11c4b595?...
> > > > > > > > > > Barca (Dec 22, 07):
> > > > > > > > > > "Italy won a World Cup on the tail end of a ban on foreigners (1982),
> > > > > > > > > > and another one when their league was 30%+ foreign. (2006)"http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/1f34a97d6d7bfc1b?...
> > > > > > > > > > :)))
> > > > > > > > > On the 19th Dec, Barca wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Well it was equally impressive during the foreigner ban with
> > > > > > > > > > EC68 - Champions
> > > > > > > > > > WC70 - Runner up
> > > > > > > > > > EC72 - Quarterfinal
> > > > > > > > > > WC74 - First Round
> > > > > > > > > > EC76 - First Round
> > > > > > > > > > WC78 - 4th Place
> > > > > > > > > > EC80 - 4th Place
> > > > > > > > > > WC82- Champions
> > > > > > > > > Barca got caught lying again.
> > > > > > > > about what?
> > > > > > > On the 19th Dec, you wrote that Italy (impressively) won the 82 WC
> > > > > > > 'during the foreigner ban'
> > > > > > I wrote that Italy performed equally impressive during the foreigner
> > > > > > ban. Are you denying that a European champions ship, a runner up, a
> > > > > > quarterfinal appearance and 4th place in the world cup, and a 4th
> > > > > > place in another European championship is not impressive. Are you
> > > > > > sane? By anyone's standards that is impressive. You're not going to
> > > > > > convince anyone that it is not impressive Higgs.
> > > > > > Barca (Dec 22, 07):
> > > > > > "Italy won a World Cup on the tail end of a ban on foreigners (1982),
> > > > > > and another one when their league was 30%+ foreign. (2006)"
> > > > > > > When I pointed out to you aon the 20th Dec that the foreigner ban ended
> > > > > > > in 1980
> > > > > > You denied that there was a foreigner ban, muppet boy
> > > > > > Higgs (dumbass) goes from (Dec 18, 07):
> > > > > > "The reason you didn't know that is because it simply isn't true.Don't
> > > > > > believe a word that lying little turd says."http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/9951c2a4d16a9ac0?...
> > > > > > > and that you were either mistaken or lying by including 82 in
> > > > > > > a 66-80 period, you then posted (on 22nd Dec, which, remember, comes
> > > > > > > AFTER the 19th & 20th Dec), and said that Italy won the 82 WC on the
> > > > > > > tail end of the foreigner ban and then pretended that this was the
> > > > > > > quote I was referring to and was making you out to be a liar when you
> > > > > > > weren't really.
> > > > > > Higgs, do I need to point out to you that 1982 is after the foreigner
> > > > > > ban, not during it? Are you ok?
> > > > > > But I get it. This is like the time you said Italy played Catennacio
> > > > > > in 1990 and 2000 because you read it on Wiki right? ;)
> > > > > > You're just jealous that Spain is leading the club scene in Europe and
> > > > > > Italy the international.
> > > > > No not jealous,
> > > > Oh certainly Jealous. Italy are World Cup Champions...and that pisses
> > > > you off. Milan won the Champions League with 7 Italians in the
> > > > starting lineup, and the World Club Cup. These are three feats that
> > > > your precious England cannot match. Even if an English side were to
> > > > win the CL this year it would be on the backbone of a majority foreign
> > > > lineup. This is a fact that you and Higgs cannot hack....but an EPL
> > > > side will not win because either Real or Barca will win it this year.
> > > I thought as much, even if an English team does win the CL this
> > > season, and let us face it there is a very good chance that one of
> > > them will, losers like you will still to bellyache and complain and
> > > whinge and act like complete nutcases.
> >
> > bellyache, whinge, complete nutcases? What on God's green Earth are
> > you talking about. You think that simply because I pointed out that
> > the EPL has more foreigners than Englishmen, and the top four clubs
> > are almost all foreign with 78% foreign content and thus fuelled
> > primarily by foreign talent that I have a bellyache? Nay I say, rather
> > it is you who seems to have the belly ache, impulsively following me
> > into any thread I contribute to with insane ramblings, provocative
> > insults, and general trollish behavior, contributing nothing of
> > significance to the general database of football knowledge.
> >
> > > I couldn't care less if an EPL wins with either 11 Englishman or 11
> > > foreigners. That has never been my point at all. I have spoken about
> > > the EPL as a competition and the fact that it's clubs in recent
> > > seasons have been performing very well.
> >
> > The EPL teams have been doing well ever since they've packed their
> > teams with foreign talent. Indeed. And the EPL is currently the
> > richest league in Europe and has a large monopoly on tv contracts so
> > gets the widest exposure to the unfortunate youth these days who have
> > little choice but to watch it and get drawn into the hype about it.
> > The fact is that a Serie A team currently sits a top of world club
> > football, the Spanish league leads in UEFA's criteria for strongest
> > league, and Italy is the best team in Europe. None of these are
> > English in any way, and that obviously bothers you.
>
> What bothers me are fools like you who constantly write negative crap
> regarding the EPL.

The reason why you might intepret the facts as being negative could be
because you are approaching them from a negative set to begin with.
Therefore, as I've been trying to help you recongize from the
beginning, the problem is within you.

>Now true EPL watchers and supporters also happen to
> recognise the quality and depth of both La Liga and Serie A....

Two leagues which are far superior indeed.

> vica versa I would say. No one here, least of all me has ever denied
> that Spanish clubs have the better record in Europe,

Oh really? It seems you are the author of the thread entitled "The EPL
is officially the best !" I guess what you are now admitting to is
that you rescind your earlier opinion and have upgraded it due to the
information I have provided you. In that case, I have done you a
service and you shouldn't be so negative and angry with me.

>or that AC Milan
> are indeed deserved CL and W Club champions. It is you have denied the
> credibility of EPL clubs, both in the past and present.

Nah, I've only initially suggested that the EPL be renamed the EbFPL,
English-based Foreigners Premier Leauge because ever since the money
started flowing towards the EPL the clubs and owners have been going
out and buying talent from outside of England to keep the teams
somewhat competitive. This has upgraded the quality of football in
England to say the least, but it remains that this is a result of the
foreigners. I've only mentioned that, and you and Higgs have gone to
great lengths to try and discredit me, to no avail. You both look
foolish in your attempts and I am having a good laugh at how obsessed
you two are with me.

This makes you and Higgs trolls, liars. Being unknowledgable is the
least of your worries. I'd get rid of the hate first.

== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 27 2007 6:42 pm
From: kenhiggs8@hotmail.com

On Dec 28, 11:16 am, Jellore <jell...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> On Dec 28, 10:20 am, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Jellore wrote:
> > > On Dec 27, 6:14 pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > kenhig...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Dec 27, 5:10 pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > kenhig...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Dec 27, 4:33�pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > kenhig...@hotmail.com wrote (Dec 23, 07):
>
> > > > > > > > Another lie Higgs?
>
> > > > > > > You dumbass, you've snipped all the text.
>
> > > > > > > LOL!
>
> > > > > > > > > And I wanted to point out that countries like Spain have always had a
> > > > > > > > > high % of foreign imports (for a very poor return in terms of national
> > > > > > > > > success) and countries like Italy have also had periods when the
> > > > > > > > > amount of foreigners was either high or low and that the success of
> > > > > > > > > the national team didn't neccessarily correlate with this. For
> > > > > > > > > example, between 66-80, Italy won no WCs (despite the blatant attempt
> > > > > > > > > of Barca to include the 82 WC win in this period),
>
> > > > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/a0aa6c2c11c4b595?...
>
> > > > > > > > Barca (Dec 22, 07):
> > > > > > > > "Italy won a World Cup on the tail end of a ban on foreigners (1982),
> > > > > > > > and another one when their league was 30%+ foreign. (2006)"http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/1f34a97d6d7bfc1b?...
>
> > > > > > > > :)))
>
> > > > > > > On the 19th Dec, Barca wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Well it was equally impressive during the foreigner ban with
> > > > > > > > EC68 - Champions
> > > > > > > > WC70 - Runner up
> > > > > > > > EC72 - Quarterfinal
> > > > > > > > WC74 - First Round
> > > > > > > > EC76 - First Round
> > > > > > > > WC78 - 4th Place
> > > > > > > > EC80 - 4th Place
> > > > > > > > WC82- Champions
> > > > > > > Barca got caught lying again.
> > > > > > about what?
> > > > > On the 19th Dec, you wrote that Italy (impressively) won the 82 WC
> > > > > 'during the foreigner ban'
>
> > > > I wrote that Italy performed equally impressive during the foreigner
> > > > ban. Are you denying that a European champions ship, a runner up, a
> > > > quarterfinal appearance and 4th place in the world cup, and a 4th
> > > > place in another European championship is not impressive. Are you
> > > > sane? By anyone's standards that is impressive. You're not going to
> > > > convince anyone that it is not impressive Higgs.
>
> > > > Barca (Dec 22, 07):
> > > > "Italy won a World Cup on the tail end of a ban on foreigners (1982),
> > > > and another one when their league was 30%+ foreign. (2006)"
>
> > > > > When I pointed out to you aon the 20th Dec that the foreigner ban ended
> > > > > in 1980
>
> > > > You denied that there was a foreigner ban, muppet boy
>
> > > > Higgs (dumbass) goes from (Dec 18, 07):
> > > > "The reason you didn't know that is because it simply isn't true.Don't
> > > > believe a word that lying little turd says."http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/9951c2a4d16a9ac0?...
>
> > > > > and that you were either mistaken or lying by including 82 in
> > > > > a 66-80 period, you then posted (on 22nd Dec, which, remember, comes
> > > > > AFTER the 19th & 20th Dec), and said that Italy won the 82 WC on the
> > > > > tail end of the foreigner ban and then pretended that this was the
> > > > > quote I was referring to and was making you out to be a liar when you
> > > > > weren't really.
>
> > > > Higgs, do I need to point out to you that 1982 is after the foreigner
> > > > ban, not during it? Are you ok?
>
> > > > But I get it. This is like the time you said Italy played Catennacio
> > > > in 1990 and 2000 because you read it on Wiki right? ;)
>
> > > > You're just jealous that Spain is leading the club scene in Europe and
> > > > Italy the international.
>
> > > No not jealous,
>
> > Oh certainly Jealous. Italy are World Cup Champions...and that pisses
> > you off. Milan won the Champions League with 7 Italians in the
> > starting lineup, and the World Club Cup. These are three feats that
> > your precious England cannot match. Even if an English side were to
> > win the CL this year it would be on the backbone of a majority foreign
> > lineup. This is a fact that you and Higgs cannot hack....but an EPL
> > side will not win because either Real or Barca will win it this year.
>
> I thought as much, even if an English team does win the CL this
> season, and let us face it there is a very good chance that one of
> them will, losers like you will still to bellyache and complain and
> whinge and act like complete nutcases.
>
> I couldn't care less if an EPL wins with either 11 Englishman or 11
> foreigners. That has never been my point at all. I have spoken about
> the EPL as a competition and the fact that it's clubs in recent
> seasons have been performing very well. It is you who keep harping on
> about foreigners. Grow up !- Hide quoted text -
>

And that's pretty much the rub.

All the top Euro club teams use foreign players, to a greater or even
greater extent.

That people like Barca whinge and whine about how unfair it is that
Chelsea, Liverpool etc use foreign-born players is simply laughable
when he's a fan-boy of Barcelona, a team who are currently fielding a
host of foreign-born players themselves, and have been for at least 50
years.
It's even more laughable when he tries to counteract this by claiming
to be a fan of Italy, and then lecture people about how the Italian
clubs don't use foreign-born players and that Italy had a long period
when foreign players were completely banned from Serie A and the
culmination of this was Italy winning the WC in 1982!

This is simply a fantasy.

Higgs

== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 27 2007 7:31 pm
From: barca4ever87@hotmail.com

kenhig...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Dec 28, 11:16 am, Jellore <jell...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> > On Dec 28, 10:20 am, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Jellore wrote:
> > > > On Dec 27, 6:14 pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > kenhig...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Dec 27, 5:10 pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > kenhig...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Dec 27, 4:33�pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > kenhig...@hotmail.com wrote (Dec 23, 07):
> >
> > > > > > > > > Another lie Higgs?
> >
> > > > > > > > You dumbass, you've snipped all the text.
> >
> > > > > > > > LOL!
> >
> > > > > > > > > > And I wanted to point out that countries like Spain have always had a
> > > > > > > > > > high % of foreign imports (for a very poor return in terms of national
> > > > > > > > > > success) and countries like Italy have also had periods when the
> > > > > > > > > > amount of foreigners was either high or low and that the success of
> > > > > > > > > > the national team didn't neccessarily correlate with this. For
> > > > > > > > > > example, between 66-80, Italy won no WCs (despite the blatant attempt
> > > > > > > > > > of Barca to include the 82 WC win in this period),
> >
> > > > > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/a0aa6c2c11c4b595?...
> >
> > > > > > > > > Barca (Dec 22, 07):
> > > > > > > > > "Italy won a World Cup on the tail end of a ban on foreigners (1982),
> > > > > > > > > and another one when their league was 30%+ foreign. (2006)"http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/1f34a97d6d7bfc1b?...
> >
> > > > > > > > > :)))
> >
> > > > > > > > On the 19th Dec, Barca wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > Well it was equally impressive during the foreigner ban with
> > > > > > > > > EC68 - Champions
> > > > > > > > > WC70 - Runner up
> > > > > > > > > EC72 - Quarterfinal
> > > > > > > > > WC74 - First Round
> > > > > > > > > EC76 - First Round
> > > > > > > > > WC78 - 4th Place
> > > > > > > > > EC80 - 4th Place
> > > > > > > > > WC82- Champions
> > > > > > > > Barca got caught lying again.
> > > > > > > about what?
> > > > > > On the 19th Dec, you wrote that Italy (impressively) won the 82 WC
> > > > > > 'during the foreigner ban'
> >
> > > > > I wrote that Italy performed equally impressive during the foreigner
> > > > > ban. Are you denying that a European champions ship, a runner up, a
> > > > > quarterfinal appearance and 4th place in the world cup, and a 4th
> > > > > place in another European championship is not impressive. Are you
> > > > > sane? By anyone's standards that is impressive. You're not going to
> > > > > convince anyone that it is not impressive Higgs.
> >
> > > > > Barca (Dec 22, 07):
> > > > > "Italy won a World Cup on the tail end of a ban on foreigners (1982),
> > > > > and another one when their league was 30%+ foreign. (2006)"
> >
> > > > > > When I pointed out to you aon the 20th Dec that the foreigner ban ended
> > > > > > in 1980
> >
> > > > > You denied that there was a foreigner ban, muppet boy
> >
> > > > > Higgs (dumbass) goes from (Dec 18, 07):
> > > > > "The reason you didn't know that is because it simply isn't true.Don't
> > > > > believe a word that lying little turd says."http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/9951c2a4d16a9ac0?...
> >
> > > > > > and that you were either mistaken or lying by including 82 in
> > > > > > a 66-80 period, you then posted (on 22nd Dec, which, remember, comes
> > > > > > AFTER the 19th & 20th Dec), and said that Italy won the 82 WC on the
> > > > > > tail end of the foreigner ban and then pretended that this was the
> > > > > > quote I was referring to and was making you out to be a liar when you
> > > > > > weren't really.
> >
> > > > > Higgs, do I need to point out to you that 1982 is after the foreigner
> > > > > ban, not during it? Are you ok?
> >
> > > > > But I get it. This is like the time you said Italy played Catennacio
> > > > > in 1990 and 2000 because you read it on Wiki right? ;)
> >
> > > > > You're just jealous that Spain is leading the club scene in Europe and
> > > > > Italy the international.
> >
> > > > No not jealous,
> >
> > > Oh certainly Jealous. Italy are World Cup Champions...and that pisses
> > > you off. Milan won the Champions League with 7 Italians in the
> > > starting lineup, and the World Club Cup. These are three feats that
> > > your precious England cannot match. Even if an English side were to
> > > win the CL this year it would be on the backbone of a majority foreign
> > > lineup. This is a fact that you and Higgs cannot hack....but an EPL
> > > side will not win because either Real or Barca will win it this year.
> >
> > I thought as much, even if an English team does win the CL this
> > season, and let us face it there is a very good chance that one of
> > them will, losers like you will still to bellyache and complain and
> > whinge and act like complete nutcases.
> >
> > I couldn't care less if an EPL wins with either 11 Englishman or 11
> > foreigners. That has never been my point at all. I have spoken about
> > the EPL as a competition and the fact that it's clubs in recent
> > seasons have been performing very well. It is you who keep harping on
> > about foreigners. Grow up !- Hide quoted text -

> And that's pretty much the rub.

> All the top Euro club teams use foreign players, to a greater or even
> greater extent.

> That people like Barca whinge and whine about how unfair it is that
> Chelsea, Liverpool etc use foreign-born players is simply laughable
> when he's a fan-boy of Barcelona, a team who are currently fielding a
> host of foreign-born players themselves, and have been for at least 50
> years.

> It's even more laughable when he tries to counteract this by claiming
> to be a fan of Italy, and then lecture people about how the Italian
> clubs don't use foreign-born players and that Italy had a long period
> when foreign players were completely banned from Serie A and the
> culmination of this was Italy winning the WC in 1982!

> This is simply a fantasy.

Indeed, and all of your own making.

But let's hear it again Higgs. Tell us how we are all liar because
there was no foreigner ban in Italy from 1966-1980. Please?

What about telling us that catennacio is simply playing defensively?
How about your undestanding of UEFA's coefficient system? Then tell us
how much you know about football,
and top it off by calling me names because I exposed you.

== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 27 2007 9:27 pm
From: Jellore

On Dec 28, 1:08 pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Jellore wrote:
> > On Dec 28, 12:47 pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > Jellore wrote:
> > > > On Dec 28, 10:20 am, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > Jellore wrote:
> > > > > > On Dec 27, 6:14 pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > kenhig...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Dec 27, 5:10 pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > kenhig...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Dec 27, 4:33�pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > kenhig...@hotmail.com wrote (Dec 23, 07):
> > > > > > > > > > > Another lie Higgs?
> > > > > > > > > > You dumbass, you've snipped all the text.
> > > > > > > > > > LOL!
> > > > > > > > > > > > And I wanted to point out that countries like Spain have always had a
> > > > > > > > > > > > high % of foreign imports (for a very poor return in terms of national
> > > > > > > > > > > > success) and countries like Italy have also had periods when the
> > > > > > > > > > > > amount of foreigners was either high or low and that the success of
> > > > > > > > > > > > the national team didn't neccessarily correlate with this. For
> > > > > > > > > > > > example, between 66-80, Italy won no WCs (despite the blatant attempt
> > > > > > > > > > > > of Barca to include the 82 WC win in this period),
> > > > > > > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/a0aa6c2c11c4b595?...
> > > > > > > > > > > Barca (Dec 22, 07):
> > > > > > > > > > > "Italy won a World Cup on the tail end of a ban on foreigners (1982),
> > > > > > > > > > > and another one when their league was 30%+ foreign. (2006)"http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/1f34a97d6d7bfc1b?...
> > > > > > > > > > > :)))
> > > > > > > > > > On the 19th Dec, Barca wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Well it was equally impressive during the foreigner ban with
> > > > > > > > > > > EC68 - Champions
> > > > > > > > > > > WC70 - Runner up
> > > > > > > > > > > EC72 - Quarterfinal
> > > > > > > > > > > WC74 - First Round
> > > > > > > > > > > EC76 - First Round
> > > > > > > > > > > WC78 - 4th Place
> > > > > > > > > > > EC80 - 4th Place
> > > > > > > > > > > WC82- Champions
> > > > > > > > > > Barca got caught lying again.
> > > > > > > > > about what?
> > > > > > > > On the 19th Dec, you wrote that Italy (impressively) won the 82 WC
> > > > > > > > 'during the foreigner ban'
> > > > > > > I wrote that Italy performed equally impressive during the foreigner
> > > > > > > ban. Are you denying that a European champions ship, a runner up, a
> > > > > > > quarterfinal appearance and 4th place in the world cup, and a 4th
> > > > > > > place in another European championship is not impressive. Are you
> > > > > > > sane? By anyone's standards that is impressive. You're not going to
> > > > > > > convince anyone that it is not impressive Higgs.
> > > > > > > Barca (Dec 22, 07):
> > > > > > > "Italy won a World Cup on the tail end of a ban on foreigners (1982),
> > > > > > > and another one when their league was 30%+ foreign. (2006)"
> > > > > > > > When I pointed out to you aon the 20th Dec that the foreigner ban ended
> > > > > > > > in 1980
> > > > > > > You denied that there was a foreigner ban, muppet boy
> > > > > > > Higgs (dumbass) goes from (Dec 18, 07):
> > > > > > > "The reason you didn't know that is because it simply isn't true.Don't
> > > > > > > believe a word that lying little turd says."http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/9951c2a4d16a9ac0?...
> > > > > > > > and that you were either mistaken or lying by including 82 in
> > > > > > > > a 66-80 period, you then posted (on 22nd Dec, which, remember, comes
> > > > > > > > AFTER the 19th & 20th Dec), and said that Italy won the 82 WC on the
> > > > > > > > tail end of the foreigner ban and then pretended that this was the
> > > > > > > > quote I was referring to and was making you out to be a liar when you
> > > > > > > > weren't really.
> > > > > > > Higgs, do I need to point out to you that 1982 is after the foreigner
> > > > > > > ban, not during it? Are you ok?
> > > > > > > But I get it. This is like the time you said Italy played Catennacio
> > > > > > > in 1990 and 2000 because you read it on Wiki right? ;)
> > > > > > > You're just jealous that Spain is leading the club scene in Europe and
> > > > > > > Italy the international.
> > > > > > No not jealous,
> > > > > Oh certainly Jealous. Italy are World Cup Champions...and that pisses
> > > > > you off. Milan won the Champions League with 7 Italians in the
> > > > > starting lineup, and the World Club Cup. These are three feats that
> > > > > your precious England cannot match. Even if an English side were to
> > > > > win the CL this year it would be on the backbone of a majority foreign
> > > > > lineup. This is a fact that you and Higgs cannot hack....but an EPL
> > > > > side will not win because either Real or Barca will win it this year.
> > > > I thought as much, even if an English team does win the CL this
> > > > season, and let us face it there is a very good chance that one of
> > > > them will, losers like you will still to bellyache and complain and
> > > > whinge and act like complete nutcases.
>
> > > bellyache, whinge, complete nutcases? What on God's green Earth are
> > > you talking about. You think that simply because I pointed out that
> > > the EPL has more foreigners than Englishmen, and the top four clubs
> > > are almost all foreign with 78% foreign content and thus fuelled
> > > primarily by foreign talent that I have a bellyache? Nay I say, rather
> > > it is you who seems to have the belly ache, impulsively following me
> > > into any thread I contribute to with insane ramblings, provocative
> > > insults, and general trollish behavior, contributing nothing of
> > > significance to the general database of football knowledge.
>
> > > > I couldn't care less if an EPL wins with either 11 Englishman or 11
> > > > foreigners. That has never been my point at all. I have spoken about
> > > > the EPL as a competition and the fact that it's clubs in recent
> > > > seasons have been performing very well.
>
> > > The EPL teams have been doing well ever since they've packed their
> > > teams with foreign talent. Indeed. And the EPL is currently the
> > > richest league in Europe and has a large monopoly on tv contracts so
> > > gets the widest exposure to the unfortunate youth these days who have
> > > little choice but to watch it and get drawn into the hype about it.
> > > The fact is that a Serie A team currently sits a top of world club
> > > football, the Spanish league leads in UEFA's criteria for strongest
> > > league, and Italy is the best team in Europe. None of these are
> > > English in any way, and that obviously bothers you.
>
> > What bothers me are fools like you who constantly write negative crap
> > regarding the EPL.
>
> The reason why you might intepret the facts as being negative could be
> because you are approaching them from a negative set to begin with.
> Therefore, as I've been trying to help you recongize from the
> beginning, the problem is within you.
>
> >Now true EPL watchers and supporters also happen to
> > recognise the quality and depth of both La Liga and Serie A....
>
> Two leagues which are far superior indeed.
>
> > vica versa I would say. No one here, least of all me has ever denied
> > that Spanish clubs have the better record in Europe,
>
> Oh really? It seems you are the author of the thread entitled "The EPL
> is officially the best !" I guess what you are now admitting to is
> that you rescind your earlier opinion and have upgraded it due to the
> information I have provided you. In that case, I have done you a
> service and you shouldn't be so negative and angry with me.
>
> >or that AC Milan
> > are indeed deserved CL and W Club champions. It is you have denied the
> > credibility of EPL clubs, both in the past and present.
>
> Nah, I've only initially suggested that the EPL be renamed the EbFPL,
> English-based Foreigners Premier Leauge because ever since the money
> started flowing towards the EPL the clubs and owners have been going
> out and buying talent from outside of England to keep the teams
> somewhat competitive. This has upgraded the quality of football in
> England to say the least, but it remains that this is a result of the
> foreigners. I've only mentioned that, and you and Higgs have gone to
> great lengths to try and discredit me, to no avail. You both look
> foolish in your attempts and I am having a good laugh at how obsessed
> you two are with me.
>
> This makes you and Higgs trolls, liars. Being unknowledgable is the
> least of your worries. I'd get rid of the hate first.

Maybe we should call you Dr Barca from now on then.

The fact that you would even suggest renaming the EPL proves you are a
troll. Of course good players from overseas has upgraded the
competition, which is arguing otherwise. No genuine supporter of the
EPL is bothered about the number of oversea players in the EPL. The
only person I can see who is is who you moron.

If I am obsessed with you, then I guess that makes you my sweetheart
Barca.

== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 27 2007 9:28 pm
From: Jellore

On Dec 28, 2:31 pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> kenhig...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Dec 28, 11:16 am, Jellore <jell...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> > > On Dec 28, 10:20 am, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > Jellore wrote:
> > > > > On Dec 27, 6:14 pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > kenhig...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Dec 27, 5:10 pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > kenhig...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Dec 27, 4:33�pm, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > kenhig...@hotmail.com wrote (Dec 23, 07):
>
> > > > > > > > > > Another lie Higgs?
>
> > > > > > > > > You dumbass, you've snipped all the text.
>
> > > > > > > > > LOL!
>
> > > > > > > > > > > And I wanted to point out that countries like Spain have always had a
> > > > > > > > > > > high % of foreign imports (for a very poor return in terms of national
> > > > > > > > > > > success) and countries like Italy have also had periods when the
> > > > > > > > > > > amount of foreigners was either high or low and that the success of
> > > > > > > > > > > the national team didn't neccessarily correlate with this. For
> > > > > > > > > > > example, between 66-80, Italy won no WCs (despite the blatant attempt
> > > > > > > > > > > of Barca to include the 82 WC win in this period),
>
> > > > > > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/a0aa6c2c11c4b595?...
>
> > > > > > > > > > Barca (Dec 22, 07):
> > > > > > > > > > "Italy won a World Cup on the tail end of a ban on foreigners (1982),
> > > > > > > > > > and another one when their league was 30%+ foreign. (2006)"http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/1f34a97d6d7bfc1b?...
>
> > > > > > > > > > :)))
>
> > > > > > > > > On the 19th Dec, Barca wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > Well it was equally impressive during the foreigner ban with
> > > > > > > > > > EC68 - Champions
> > > > > > > > > > WC70 - Runner up
> > > > > > > > > > EC72 - Quarterfinal
> > > > > > > > > > WC74 - First Round
> > > > > > > > > > EC76 - First Round
> > > > > > > > > > WC78 - 4th Place
> > > > > > > > > > EC80 - 4th Place
> > > > > > > > > > WC82- Champions
> > > > > > > > > Barca got caught lying again.
> > > > > > > > about what?
> > > > > > > On the 19th Dec, you wrote that Italy (impressively) won the 82 WC
> > > > > > > 'during the foreigner ban'
>
> > > > > > I wrote that Italy performed equally impressive during the foreigner
> > > > > > ban. Are you denying that a European champions ship, a runner up, a
> > > > > > quarterfinal appearance and 4th place in the world cup, and a 4th
> > > > > > place in another European championship is not impressive. Are you
> > > > > > sane? By anyone's standards that is impressive. You're not going to
> > > > > > convince anyone that it is not impressive Higgs.
>
> > > > > > Barca (Dec 22, 07):
> > > > > > "Italy won a World Cup on the tail end of a ban on foreigners (1982),
> > > > > > and another one when their league was 30%+ foreign. (2006)"
>
> > > > > > > When I pointed out to you aon the 20th Dec that the foreigner ban ended
> > > > > > > in 1980
>
> > > > > > You denied that there was a foreigner ban, muppet boy
>
> > > > > > Higgs (dumbass) goes from (Dec 18, 07):
> > > > > > "The reason you didn't know that is because it simply isn't true.Don't
> > > > > > believe a word that lying little turd says."http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/9951c2a4d16a9ac0?...
>
> > > > > > > and that you were either mistaken or lying by including 82 in
> > > > > > > a 66-80 period, you then posted (on 22nd Dec, which, remember, comes
> > > > > > > AFTER the 19th & 20th Dec), and said that Italy won the 82 WC on the
> > > > > > > tail end of the foreigner ban and then pretended that this was the
> > > > > > > quote I was referring to and was making you out to be a liar when you
> > > > > > > weren't really.
>
> > > > > > Higgs, do I need to point out to you that 1982 is after the foreigner
> > > > > > ban, not during it? Are you ok?
>
> > > > > > But I get it. This is like the time you said Italy played Catennacio
> > > > > > in 1990 and 2000 because you read it on Wiki right? ;)
>
> > > > > > You're just jealous that Spain is leading the club scene in Europe and
> > > > > > Italy the international.
>
> > > > > No not jealous,
>
> > > > Oh certainly Jealous. Italy are World Cup Champions...and that pisses
> > > > you off. Milan won the Champions League with 7 Italians in the
> > > > starting lineup, and the World Club Cup. These are three feats that
> > > > your precious England cannot match. Even if an English side were to
> > > > win the CL this year it would be on the backbone of a majority foreign
> > > > lineup. This is a fact that you and Higgs cannot hack....but an EPL
> > > > side will not win because either Real or Barca will win it this year.
>
> > > I thought as much, even if an English team does win the CL this
> > > season, and let us face it there is a very good chance that one of
> > > them will, losers like you will still to bellyache and complain and
> > > whinge and act like complete nutcases.
>
> > > I couldn't care less if an EPL wins with either 11 Englishman or 11
> > > foreigners. That has never been my point at all. I have spoken about
> > > the EPL as a competition and the fact that it's clubs in recent
> > > seasons have been performing very well. It is you who keep harping on
> > > about foreigners. Grow up !- Hide quoted text -
> > And that's pretty much the rub.
> > All the top Euro club teams use foreign players, to a greater or even
> > greater extent.
> > That people like Barca whinge and whine about how unfair it is that
> > Chelsea, Liverpool etc use foreign-born players is simply laughable
> > when he's a fan-boy of Barcelona, a team who are currently fielding a
> > host of foreign-born players themselves, and have been for at least 50
> > years.
> > It's even more laughable when he tries to counteract this by claiming
> > to be a fan of Italy, and then lecture people about how the Italian
> > clubs don't use foreign-born players and that Italy had a long period
> > when foreign players were completely banned from Serie A and the
> > culmination of this was Italy winning the WC in 1982!
> > This is simply a fantasy.
>
> Indeed, and all of your own making.
>
> But let's hear it again Higgs. Tell us how we are all liar because
> there was no foreigner ban in Italy from 1966-1980. Please?
>
> What about telling us that catennacio is simply playing defensively?
> How about your undestanding of UEFA's coefficient system? Then tell us
> how much you know about football,
> and top it off by calling me names because I exposed you.

Stop changing the subject troll. You have been caught denigrating the
EPL for your own perverse pleasure.

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TOPIC: Which country has won all three European Cups in the same year?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/browse_thread/thread/760f7083fd1eb44b?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 27 2007 5:59 pm
From: barca4ever89@hotmail.com

I get the feeling that you just can't help responding to me. Why is
that? Oh yes, you said so in another thread a few days
back...ownership...

Also, you still haven't explained what there was to find out?

I've spread nothing but the truth.

Truths I've spoken of:

1 - The EPL is more than 50% foreign, and the top 4 clubs are 78%
foreign content

2 - Italy and Spain are the two most successful nations in European
Club Football

3 - There actually was a ban on foreigners from 1966-1980 in the Serie
A despite all of Higgs lame attempt to deny this. It is well
documented. Some players
managed to slip through for a variety of reasons.

4 - UEFA's coefficients have La Liga as the top league in Europe not
the EPL

5 - Historically the English have been critical of the Italian style
of play, citing it to be negative
and destructive. This is not just tabloid nonsense, unless you
want to confirm that the English
football commentators work for tabloids. There is constant
reference to this in games they
comment on when Italy play. The interesting thing is that now that
the English FA understand
that they have no one competent in their own home they go out and
hire an Italian coach that
epitomises all of those negative stereotypes, and although he does
not play catennacio he is
very defense orientated and will have England playing a style that
has been criticized as being
catennacio in the past (Capello's style of course). This is most
amusing. What is even more
amusing are that English fans who have undoutedly called Italy
negative, now have a coach
that will make them play "negatively" and they are embracing it.
Pure HYPOCRISY. :))
*note* It is impossible to feel hatred for Hypocrites, just
pity.

6 - In the first recorded International match between Scotland and
England it is also well
documented that the Scotts thoroughly confused the English with
their passing game. This
was a concept that the English did not understand at that time as
they believed that you take
the ball and run (they called it dribbling) with it as far as you
can go before losing it and some
other player taking over. Thus the Scotts taught the English a
very important lesson here.
*note #2* if I was an Anglo-Phobe like you or your muppet friend
Higgs earlier suggested,
would I be praising the Scotts for their brave display of football
historically? Indeed, I would
not, therefore your accusations have no grounds.

7 - You are obsessed with me as evidenced by your constant following
me around to every
thread simply to call me names, never putting forth any relevant
football content. Therefore
you are the mad man who cannot control yourself. I've had to
educate you now about a
dozen times on historical facts that well versed fan should be
knowledgable in.

I dare you to refute any of these claims that I have addressed.

You will not, because you cannot, proving that you are the troll.

Point, set, match. Thank you Mr. Referee and Linesmen, thank you ball
boys, and a special thanks to all my fans out there....

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TOPIC: World's first football club traced to Scotland
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/browse_thread/thread/0a594a058c3fa4c5?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 27 2007 6:31 pm
From: kenhiggs8@hotmail.com

On Dec 28, 10:15 am, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Benny wrote:
> > > Subject : World's first football club traced to Scotland
> > > From : kenhig...@hotmail.com
>
> > > As I've been asking since early in the month, how do you explain the
> > > presence of those Germans, Brazilians and Uruguayans in Serie A in the
> > > late 60s/early 70s?
>
> > > You wouldn't have been posting lies to rss again, would you?
>
> > > Sucker
>
> > > Higgs
>
> Famous last words from Higgs:
> "No doubt someone else will put you out of your misery soon enough..."
>
> and well....
>
> Benny says:
>
> > Italian clubs were banned from SIGNING foreigners. Obviously the ones that
> > were already there weren't kicked out.
>
> LOLOL....Higgs, point...set...match....I own you Higgsie :))))
>

Like I said from the outset, you obviously knew nothing about the ban,
and since then you've lied and tried to misrepresent me as you've dug
a bigger hole for yourself

The key word is SIGNING, as Benny pointed out.

Your claim that all foreigners were banned from 66 onwards is patently
false.

You got taught a lesson (and the funny thing is, you don't even
realise it).

Continual lies are basically what everyone expects from you, and you
don't disappoint

Higgs

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 27 2007 7:49 pm
From: barca4ever87@hotmail.com

kenhig...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Dec 28, 10:15�am, barca4eve...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Benny wrote:
> > > > Subject : World's first football club traced to Scotland
> > > �> From : kenhig...@hotmail.com
> >
> > > �> As I've been asking since early in the month, how do you explain the
> > > �> presence of those Germans, Brazilians and Uruguayans in Serie A in the
> > > �> late 60s/early 70s?
> >
> > > �> You wouldn't have been posting lies to rss again, would you?
> >
> > > �> Sucker
> >
> > > �> Higgs
> >
> > Famous last words from Higgs:
> > "No doubt someone else will put you out of your misery soon enough..."
> >
> > and well....
> >
> > Benny says:
> >
> > > Italian clubs were banned from SIGNING foreigners. Obviously the ones that
> > > were already there weren't kicked out.

> > LOLOL....Higgs, point...set...match....I own you Higgsie :))))

LOL, you snipped the rest of it Higgs, how come? Not embarrassed
enough yet? :))))

Here you go:

He (Higgs) has already been told, but he can't read. He's a moron. We
all already know this.

Barca: (Dec 18, 2007)
"...the ban allowed for foreigners
who were already on the teams to stay but no new ones to come..."
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/e838faafa1d28f96?dmode=source

and...

MH (Dec 23, 2007):
"It was not a partial ban. They were not allowed to sign foreign
players. "
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/3b7af97ec73b93a5?dmode=source

Higgs doesn't know much, and it has been a pleasure exposing him...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oriundo
http://www.planetworldcup.com/GUESTS/matt20040222.html
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/articles/chinagliagg.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foreign_Serie_A_players

Why stop here Higgs?

Hey by why stop there. You're the idiot that thought I was just

Higgs said:
"Putting forward a bunch of historical results as to when LL was
considered stronger and ignoring the current ranking seems a pretty
silly way of doing it."

when I presented UEFA's coefficient rankings that objectively prove
that Spain is still the "official" best league in Europe:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method3/crank2008.html

You even were dumb enough to come up with this gem after:

Higgs:
"How about putting forward rankings from the early 70s when Ajax &
Feyenoord were EC1 champs and then claiming the Dutch League is
currently the strongest? "
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/e04ab4cd3067f963?...

Clearly revealing that you hadn't a single idea that I was actually
posting the current rank, as per UEFA.

How about the time when you denied that the EPL has the highest
concentration of foreigners? And how many times has it been where
you've claimed to be an expert on catennacio but refuse to explain
what it is? Four, five? Who's counting anyhow? ;)

Barca:
"Oh dear, you clearly don't understand what catennacio is, do you?"

Higgs:
"Actually, I know only too well."

Now that you've been told by 7 seperate sources I'd like for you to
deny that there was a ban on foreigners from 1966-1980 Higgs, then
call me a liar and someone who doesn't know anything :))) PLEASE :)))

:)))

Higgs says:
> Like I said from the outset, you obviously knew nothing about the ban,

Nah that was you. You went from calling me a liar, to pretending you
knew that it existed. You sad muppet.

You searched for what? 1 week to collect all the details? It was all
there for you Higgs. Wipe the egg off your face, there's nothing you
can do to hide from this uberly embarrassing moment.

Barca (Dec 17, 07):
"You do know there was a foreigner ban in Italy from 1966 till 1980,
right?"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/9951c2a4d16a9ac0?dmode=source

Alkami (Dec 17, 07):
"Actually I did not know that since I didnt get into the game until
about 1982. The point however still stands, that in the 80s Italy was
the prime importer of foreign players while having a very successful
national side."
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/9951c2a4d16a9ac0?dmode=source

Higgs (dumbass) goes from (Dec 18, 07):
"The reason you didn't know that is because it simply isn't true.Don't
believe a word that lying little turd says."
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/9951c2a4d16a9ac0?dmode=source

Higgs (Dec 23, 2007):
"Just how serious was this foreigner ban?"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/1736693b0aadbca8?dmode=source

MH (Dec 23, 2007):
"It was pretty serious- there was an extended period when clubs were
not
allowed to sign any foreign players."
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/176f67065de1e9dd?dmode=source

Higgs (Dec 26, 2007):
"I guess this is the part that most surprises me. The partial ban..."
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/43d675ce6504b642?dmode=source

MH (Dec 26, 2007):
"It was not a partial ban. They were not allowed to sign foreign
players."
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/43d675ce6504b642?dmode=source

Higgs responds:
"But that's a moveable criteria. "

lol, moveable? Why is that, only because it proves you wrong? Where
would you like to move it to muppet boy? :))))

Hey Higgs is your lie that Giggs played for the English U21 team
moveable too?

Higgs (Dec 24, 2007):
" Giggs played U21 for England "
MH (Dec 26, 2007):
"WRONG! he played for England schoolboys, which he was entitled to do
since he went to school in England. He was never eligible to play for
England U21 or any other England team. Look it up." - OWNED AGAIN
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/ee496d8e03e0f110?dmode=source

This is fun. It's just not fair for you is it Higgs. It's like going
fishing with dynamite...not fair at all.
BTW Higgs, I really do own you :)))

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TOPIC: What he said
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/browse_thread/thread/72d55a8a207058e1?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 27 2007 6:45 pm
From: "7h@ch"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml;jsessionid=0EXAAF1EQFF1PQFIQMGCFGGAVCBQUIV0?xml=/sport/2007/12/28/nosplit/soquot128.xml

or: http://tinyurl.com/29n6to

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 27 2007 8:22 pm
From: "Diabolik"

>> >> Juve fans had been so vocal when calls didn't go their
>> >> way in other instances this season, hopefully their memory won't be
>> >> that
>> >> selective in the future.
>>
>> > LOL. Look who's talking about selective memories.
>>
>> "We are penalised in an unacceptable way", that's what Juve's chairman of
>> the board said just a few weeks ago. I happen to think Juve have had
>> their
>> fair share of good and bad calls,
>
> I happen to think that the number of bad calls suffered by Juve
> outweighs by far, both quantitatively and qualitatively, the ones in
> favor. My memory may be selective, but no more than the one of fans of
> other teams in the past.

Bwahahahahahahaha!
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